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> Screw Royal Purple, I called their Technical support
steveherman
post Aug 30 2010, 02:24 PM
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I was inquiring about the ZDDP parts per million.
They would not give out that info.
I understand trade secrets and such but we should be told certain aspects that help us decide which products to purchase.
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Jake Raby
post Aug 30 2010, 03:16 PM
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Royal Purple went down hill as soon as it became more readily available.. I used it in my 160,000 mile 912E engine that provided no-fail service over 8 years.

The data you are looking for is easy to get, not even from them.

BUT its not just ZDDP that matters, its the entire oil base stock and additive package. Some zinc is also more active than other and don't discount the moly, sulphur and phosphorous content either.

We've learned this over 5 years of developing our own oil especially for the aircooled engine..
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post Aug 30 2010, 03:38 PM
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i looked for your oil jake at http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/store/.
i did not see it there.
Availibility? Price?
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post Aug 30 2010, 03:48 PM
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i looked for your oil jake at http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/store/.
i did not see it there.
Availibility? Price?



I just released the fact that we had this product completed two weeks ago.
It is now being used in our engines for both break in and street service as well as race applications.

I plan on only selling it to the general public after we have at least a year or so of testimonial and comparatives from these customers and their engines to substantiate the claims. I also have a fleet of 14 test vehicles attaining the final used oil analysis from the latest formulations currently. We only need to finish one more product and build the website for it before going live, sometime in 2011..

I do have a handful of beta testers out there running it as well, in engines from 80-625HP. You can learn all about it on my forums.

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QUOTE(Jake Raby @ Aug 30 2010, 05:16 PM) *


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i looked for your oil jake at http://www.aircooledtechnology.com/store/.
i did not see it there.
Availibility? Price?



I just released the fact that we had this product completed two weeks ago.
It is now being used in our engines for both break in and street service as well as race applications.

I plan on only selling it to the general public after we have at least a year or so of testimonial and comparatives from these customers and their engines to substantiate the claims. I also have a fleet of 14 test vehicles attaining the final used oil analysis from the latest formulations currently. We only need to finish one more product and build the website for it before going live, sometime in 2011..

I do have a handful of beta testers out there running it as well, in engines from 80-625HP. You can learn all about it on my forums.



Mr. Raby: so brad penn oil is no longer the raby standard oil anymore, and now it is snake oil that you use.??? I am a bit confused, is this stuff (snake oil) real and your not using or planning to not use brad penn anymore, or is this some joke lable you made up?
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steveherman   Screw Royal Purple   Aug 30 2010, 02:24 PM
Tom   Sounds like they screwed themselves, as least as f...   Aug 30 2010, 02:46 PM
pcar916   They would not give out that info. :agree: Bra...   Aug 30 2010, 02:57 PM
steveherman   Yeah they screwed the pooch in my eyes. i used to ...   Aug 30 2010, 03:03 PM
RobW   Screw Royal Purple? :screwy: Oh, figuratively...   Aug 30 2010, 03:07 PM
904svo   Some information about 914 and ZZDp. http://www.l...   Aug 30 2010, 03:08 PM
Jake Raby   Royal Purple went down hill as soon as it became m...   Aug 30 2010, 03:16 PM
steveherman   i looked for your oil jake at http://www.airc...   Aug 30 2010, 03:38 PM
Jake Raby   i looked for your oil jake at http://www.air...   Aug 30 2010, 03:48 PM
spankmeister7   What? Exactly how do testimonials substantiate cla...   Aug 30 2010, 11:40 PM
realred914   [quote name='steveherman' post='1363558' date='Au...   Aug 31 2010, 09:39 AM
Phoenix 914-6GT   I always thought "Snake Oil" was referre...   Aug 30 2010, 03:48 PM
steveherman   I always thought "Snake Oil" was referr...   Aug 30 2010, 03:51 PM
Jake Raby   I always thought "Snake Oil" was referr...   Aug 30 2010, 03:53 PM
Phoenix 914-6GT   I always thought "Snake Oil" was refer...   Aug 30 2010, 04:04 PM
SLITS   Royal Purple is obscene in pricing .... So I boug...   Aug 30 2010, 03:54 PM
Jake Raby   Here is the back side of the break in oil bottle.....   Aug 30 2010, 04:04 PM
ArtechnikA   There's already a lubricant called Snake Oil. ...   Aug 30 2010, 05:55 PM
Jake Raby   Already been in contact with them, they don't ...   Aug 30 2010, 07:55 PM
jt914-6   Already been in contact with them, they don't...   Aug 31 2010, 05:18 AM
Jake Raby   Already been in contact with them, they don...   Aug 31 2010, 06:20 AM
SLITS   Pretty cool Jake. And I do really like the name. ...   Aug 30 2010, 08:02 PM
Zardozz   Oh, that's hot.   Aug 30 2010, 08:59 PM
championgt1   The old pictures and the history behind it is very...   Aug 30 2010, 10:12 PM
Jake Raby   Basically I want plenty of users that have ran a d...   Aug 31 2010, 04:38 AM
underthetire   Basically I want plenty of users that have ran a ...   Aug 31 2010, 10:15 AM
realred914   Mr raby: is the new oil you are using really the ...   Aug 31 2010, 11:15 AM
Nürburg Nomad   Mr raby: is the new oil you are using really the...   Aug 31 2010, 11:31 AM
Jake Raby   Mr raby: is the new oil you are using really th...   Aug 31 2010, 01:54 PM
RobW   Cool pictures and history! :headbanger:   Aug 31 2010, 11:43 AM


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