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| jsayre914 |
Aug 15 2010, 04:21 PM
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Speed Up !!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,210 Joined: 10-February 08 From: Timonium MD 21093 Member No.: 8,696 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Well,
I am waiting for my exhaust to come back from the ceramic coater, so why not start the next project (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I just recieved my shipment of second skin. I bought the damplifier, overkill and luxury liner. I am not sure if i will use it all but I want to see what works better where. I will post some pics once i get underway. I already have an aftermarket engine bay pad from evil bay. it works pretty good. this stuff i just got will go on the interior only. I also plan to reinstall the rear window with some new butyl tape when i begin. (just say NO to water) i wonder how many projects i can start at one time (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) here is the link to the stuff i bought http://www.secondskinaudio.com/ |
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| charliew |
Aug 26 2010, 11:15 AM
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If that car has been up north it's whole life it looks great in the floors. You can't get the floors too clean so do the best you can or the rust will be back. I would do the rear window first so it doesn't get wet after the new interior coating has been done.
I've used a lot of por15 and have decided even if I had to brush it on I would use epoxy two part primer and a good industrual enamel on it after cleaning it with the por 15 cleaning and rust curing products, I think it's a better coating. The por 15 almost seems as hard as powdercoat but it sometimes doesn't stick near as well as epoxy primer and nothing sticks to it good after its cured except the por light blue intercoat primer ( called tiecoat primer) and that makes it even more expensive. The shelf life of por 15 is not good so don't buy more than you need if you do go that way. |
| realred914 |
Sep 4 2010, 12:52 PM
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If that car has been up north it's whole life it looks great in the floors. You can't get the floors too clean so do the best you can or the rust will be back. I would do the rear window first so it doesn't get wet after the new interior coating has been done. I've used a lot of por15 and have decided even if I had to brush it on I would use epoxy two part primer and a good industrual enamel on it after cleaning it with the por 15 cleaning and rust curing products, I think it's a better coating. The por 15 almost seems as hard as powdercoat but it sometimes doesn't stick near as well as epoxy primer and nothing sticks to it good after its cured except the por light blue intercoat primer ( called tiecoat primer) and that makes it even more expensive. The shelf life of por 15 is not good so don't buy more than you need if you do go that way. ditto that on por 15, it can flack off specially smooth wire welled surfaces. the epoxy is superior in adhesion, top coatability even clean up is easier. por 15 just makes a mess. they have a good sales gimick, just paint over rust, but who really belives that is the right way? that is what sell their product to, folks that believe painting over rust is the way to go (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) get to know your local real autobody paint and supply store, look for Dupont or PPG brands, (and a few others) name brand real atuomotive finishing stuff. your doing a nice complete job judging form teh photos,dont compromise thsi project with crappy hobby paint that only exists becuase they ahve been able to sell this paint over rust gimick you will also want to scuff that shinny metal you brushed with some course sand paper to give the coating a better surface. be very carefull with acid treatments some paint will NOT cure if there is an acid caot under them. some acid catings must be washed off, which may be difficult in side teh car (acidic rinse water may get into places you can clean out. what ever you do do NOT buy any of Eastwoods paint products, they make the cheapest crap and sell it for high prices. here rust converter coating is a nightmare of rust, it actually rpomotes rust under the top coat, I have done tests, it is worst then bare metal exposed to salt water, no kindding, pure junk. one more reasont to shop at a real auto body shop supply store and also smart to look up Duponts or PPgs website call and talk to there tech guys they really know their stuff, real chemicals, real paints, real cars |
| Bleyseng |
Sep 4 2010, 01:00 PM
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Aircooled Baby! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
If that car has been up north it's whole life it looks great in the floors. You can't get the floors too clean so do the best you can or the rust will be back. I would do the rear window first so it doesn't get wet after the new interior coating has been done. I've used a lot of por15 and have decided even if I had to brush it on I would use epoxy two part primer and a good industrual enamel on it after cleaning it with the por 15 cleaning and rust curing products, I think it's a better coating. The por 15 almost seems as hard as powdercoat but it sometimes doesn't stick near as well as epoxy primer and nothing sticks to it good after its cured except the por light blue intercoat primer ( called tiecoat primer) and that makes it even more expensive. The shelf life of por 15 is not good so don't buy more than you need if you do go that way. ditto that on por 15, it can flack off specially smooth wire welled surfaces. the epoxy is superior in adhesion, top coatability even clean up is easier. por 15 just makes a mess. they have a good sales gimick, just paint over rust, but who really belives that is the right way? that is what sell their product to, folks that believe painting over rust is the way to go (IMG:style_emoticons/default/barf.gif) get to know your local real autobody paint and supply store, look for Dupont or PPG brands, (and a few others) name brand real atuomotive finishing stuff. your doing a nice complete job judging form teh photos,dont compromise thsi project with crappy hobby paint that only exists becuase they ahve been able to sell this paint over rust gimick you will also want to scuff that shinny metal you brushed with some course sand paper to give the coating a better surface. be very carefull with acid treatments some paint will NOT cure if there is an acid caot under them. some acid catings must be washed off, which may be difficult in side teh car (acidic rinse water may get into places you can clean out. what ever you do do NOT buy any of Eastwoods paint products, they make the cheapest crap and sell it for high prices. here rust converter coating is a nightmare of rust, it actually rpomotes rust under the top coat, I have done tests, it is worst then bare metal exposed to salt water, no kindding, pure junk. one more reasont to shop at a real auto body shop supply store and also smart to look up Duponts or PPgs website call and talk to there tech guys they really know their stuff, real chemicals, real paints, real cars (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) I have been using epoxy primers and they work great and no moisture will go thru em...POR 15 has pealed off on me before..get the real stuff epoxy primer. |
jsayre914 My sound deadining projeck Aug 15 2010, 04:21 PM
RJMII That spectrum sludge looks pretty interesting, wit... Aug 15 2010, 04:26 PM
Vacca Rabite Funny! This Second Skin product JUST showed u... Aug 15 2010, 04:48 PM
Gint I'm also interested in the results! Aug 15 2010, 06:12 PM
PanelBilly Me two Aug 16 2010, 09:26 AM
nsyr I just removed a product similar to spectrum sludg... Aug 16 2010, 10:03 AM
charliew Was it causing rust or had it been put on top of e... Aug 16 2010, 12:13 PM
jsayre914 I didnt get very far, but i started yesterday. I g... Aug 18 2010, 12:49 PM
jsayre914 trunk pics :) Aug 18 2010, 12:52 PM
McMark I've used all those products. The Spectrum Sl... Aug 18 2010, 01:30 PM
jsayre914 cool video, thanks. I will not be using spectrum o... Aug 18 2010, 06:06 PM
Vacca Rabite When I did mine, this is how I did it.
I wire bru... Aug 18 2010, 06:21 PM
scotty b IMHO you should remove the factory tar boards and ... Aug 18 2010, 06:25 PM
jsayre914
IMHO you should remove the factory tar boards and... Aug 18 2010, 09:04 PM
McMark The 'tar boards' are on the floor pan and ... Aug 19 2010, 11:32 AM
SirAndy
The 'tar boards' are on the floor pan and... Aug 19 2010, 11:44 AM
SirAndy Btw. the tar comes off in fairly large chunks if y... Aug 19 2010, 11:51 AM
SirAndy After tar removal:
http://www.914world.com/bbs2/u... Aug 19 2010, 11:52 AM
jsayre914 :toke: so what you guys are telling me is that wha... Aug 19 2010, 12:42 PM
ellisor3
:toke: so what you guys are telling me is that wh... Aug 19 2010, 02:28 PM
LotusJoe
[quote name='jsayre914' post='1358305' date='Aug ... Aug 19 2010, 03:05 PM
SirAndy In looking at the pictures, it looks like the tar ... Aug 19 2010, 04:21 PM
jsayre914 I have been really busy, recently, no time to work... Aug 25 2010, 02:36 PM
jsayre914 this is where i stopped.. Aug 25 2010, 02:38 PM
jpnovak You are using the slow method.
Here is my metho... Aug 25 2010, 02:43 PM
markb Even easier: dry ice.
Drop it on there, stand ba... Aug 25 2010, 03:20 PM
Vacca Rabite I don't think Joe wants the undercoating off t... Aug 25 2010, 06:04 PM
jsayre914 Tar is gone
:Qarl: :Qarl:
Now what is my next ... Aug 26 2010, 10:27 AM
jsayre914 THE UGLY :sick: Aug 26 2010, 10:29 AM
Vacca Rabite The bolts that point forwards are, I think, welded... Aug 26 2010, 10:52 AM
jsayre914
The bolts that point forwards are, I think, welde... Aug 26 2010, 11:00 AM
Vacca Rabite
The bolts that point forwards are, I think, weld... Aug 26 2010, 11:40 AM
jsayre914 never enough time to work on the car <_< bu... Sep 4 2010, 12:30 PM
realred914 ditch that POR 15 crap and invest in some good aut... Sep 4 2010, 12:48 PM
Vacca Rabite If you want to get the epoxy, they sell the Nason ... Sep 4 2010, 04:34 PM
jsayre914 dont be mad guys, i already got the por-15 crap. i... Sep 4 2010, 06:38 PM
charliew The only way you will like the por15 with a top co... Sep 6 2010, 03:01 PM
jsayre914
The only way you will like the por15 with a top c... Sep 6 2010, 03:43 PM
Vacca Rabite No, you don't.
You an POR15 it and just put t... Sep 6 2010, 06:23 PM
scotty b :popcorn: :popcorn: :poke: :poke: :popcorn: :... Sep 23 2010, 07:41 PM
Vacca Rabite I stopped over at Joes the other day to drop off a... Sep 24 2010, 06:16 AM
jsayre914 No time for pics today, but i am ready for paint. ... Sep 28 2010, 04:02 PM
jsayre914 progress :beer3: Sep 28 2010, 08:15 PM
championgt1 Man that looks really nice! Sep 28 2010, 09:19 PM
dlee6204 :agree: It looks awesome. Sep 28 2010, 10:43 PM
silver74insocal pretty as a peach!! ya i used the damplifi... Sep 28 2010, 10:53 PM
scotty b Now take your sound deadening pad and cut it into ... Sep 29 2010, 07:01 AM
jsayre914 B)-->
sean_v8_914 I have done many inner fire walls with dyna mat or... Sep 29 2010, 07:16 AM
sean_v8_914 alot of new metal under this one.
since I coated a... Sep 29 2010, 07:23 AM
sean_v8_914 two layers or one layer of rattle trap extreme Sep 29 2010, 07:27 AM
sean_v8_914 very important to seal the rear window very well. ... Sep 29 2010, 07:29 AM
sean_v8_914 WARNING!!! POR 15 DOES NOT STICK WELL ... Sep 29 2010, 07:30 AM
Vacca Rabite the metal got well etched from the wire wheeling.
... Sep 29 2010, 07:59 AM
scotty b Sean is referring to a CHEMICAL etching that is re... Sep 29 2010, 08:05 AM
Vacca Rabite Isn't Metal Ready an etching product? its one... Sep 29 2010, 09:00 AM
strawman
Isn't Metal Ready an etching product? its on... Sep 29 2010, 09:20 AM
mikea100 I used Prep & Etch. It is cheaper and readily ... Sep 29 2010, 10:11 AM
scotty b Yes metal ready is proper, from what you stated it... Sep 29 2010, 10:26 AM
jsayre914 any tips or tricks on installing the sound mat. I ... Sep 29 2010, 04:32 PM
sean_v8_914 I am not familiar with the sound deadening you are... Sep 29 2010, 10:01 PM
jsayre914 the stuff i used said to keep all surfaces wet for... Sep 29 2010, 10:07 PM
jsayre914 Some work on the project yesterday :D Oct 10 2010, 03:29 PM
jsayre914 and one picture for scotty. See, i do listen to yo... Oct 10 2010, 03:31 PM
gothspeed
and one picture for scotty. See, i do listen to y... Nov 1 2011, 11:55 AM
SirAndy I've been thinking about using a different app... Oct 10 2010, 05:48 PM
Prospectfarms
I've been thinking about using a different ap... Nov 1 2011, 08:19 AM
scotty b You could have saved yourself so much time, aggrav... Oct 10 2010, 05:54 PM
tdgray Not to hijack... okay I did sorry...
Has anyone u... Oct 11 2010, 02:24 PM
jsayre914
Not to hijack... okay I did sorry...
Has anyone ... Oct 11 2010, 02:41 PM
kphimself On a Truck i restored a few years ago i was having... Oct 11 2010, 03:48 PM
jsayre914 I am jumping into phase 2. Overkill :evilgrin: It... Oct 13 2010, 04:08 PM
Vacca Rabite FANTASTIC! :trophy:
Zach Oct 13 2010, 04:35 PM
jsayre914 I put the interior back togeather last night. Man,... Oct 27 2010, 04:05 PM
jsayre914 The carpet is from 914 apperance and performnance.... Oct 27 2010, 04:07 PM
abayer1969 :drooley: Oct 27 2010, 04:13 PM
windforfun First class. Right on. Superb. Oct 27 2010, 05:27 PM
Vacca Rabite NICE! Oct 27 2010, 06:13 PM
Gint Nice work! That really looks good. I can... Oct 27 2010, 09:49 PM
geniusanthony First the praise. You did a very clean job of it a... Oct 28 2010, 03:27 AM
jsayre914 Its not Done yet,
I did drive it today, but i sti... Oct 28 2010, 10:21 AM
Vacca Rabite Joe, I'd like to measure the sound levels in m... Oct 28 2010, 10:49 AM
silver74insocal Looks awesome great job dude. how did the carpet g... Oct 29 2010, 04:14 PM
jsayre914
Looks awesome great job dude. how did the carpet ... Oct 29 2010, 05:29 PM
Jeffs9146 Second Skin Audio Products Nov 1 2011, 12:01 PM![]() ![]() |
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