1972 1,7 dipstick comparision, 411 VS 914/4 Options

[larss]

Just discovered the difference in min/max marking on the dipsticks for a VW411LE and a 914/4, both -72.
The min on the 914 seems to be the max on the 411, despite this the sticks are identical.
In addition to this the 914/4 had a some extra arrangements in the crankcase to prevent high sea in the oil (from which year model?).


The lower stick is the 914/4 one.
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.lsmteknik.se-10787-1290861205.1.jpg)

[realred914]

well I'd not use that "411" dipstick in a 914 motor as factory configured.

my referecance books shows two different engine configureations for the 411 car.

In 1970 the engine pictured looks the same as the 914 motor as far as oil filler and dip stick placement go.
the 1971 411 motor however is different in the photos, the oil filler is changed although only the top of the motor is shown in the photo, the oil filler and dip stick are not visable, in place of the 914 style oil filler cap and funnel there is a flat cap clipped on, the dip stick is NOT in the 914 location.
I can only assume that the oil filler was moved for teh 1971 411, maybe to behind the liscence plate? (thus you wont need to remove your luggage in the rear of the car to add or check oil)

so it appears that the 411 had two oil filler and dip stick locations. if the dip stick hole was indeed moved to behind the liscence plate (just an assumption) then a lower level make senses on the stick, but the sumps oil level should be the same on all typeIV motors different dip stick locations will mean the level marks may be different even though the required level in the sump is the same.


note the vw busses had a different dip stick location and filler as well, again to allow access to teh filler and dipstick without the need of removing cargo to acces the engine lid and hence filler and dip stick.


ref.... VW FI technical manual, Henry Elfrink, 1971,