Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> AN fitting vs fuel line size?
stugray
post Nov 14 2010, 10:35 PM
Post #1


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,825
Joined: 17-September 09
From: Longmont, CO
Member No.: 10,819
Region Association: None



I want to buy a fuel cell.

It says that it has:

10AN Male inlet
8AN Male rollover
8AN Male return

http://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/555/15551/10002/-1

When I try to lookup AN fittings vs. fuel line size I find:

-3AN - 3/8" ID
-4AN - 7/16" ID
-6AN - 9/16" ID
-8AN - 3/4" ID
-10AN - 7/8" ID

So .... are they saying I need fuel lines that are 3/4" ID?????

That is ridiculous. I have a coil of braided stainless hose that is ~5/16 ID.
It seems like the logical size for fuel line, so that seems like -3AN to me.

Why would the fuel lines be so large from the fuel cell?

Seems like a lot of expensive adapters for two tiny lines through my tunnel.

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)

Any help would be good.
I must be missing something ......


And I suppose the "10AN Inlet" is for the feed to the fuel pump/pressure-regulator and the "8AN return" is the dump line back from the pressure reg.?


Stu

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
stugray
post Dec 21 2010, 07:46 AM
Post #2


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 3,825
Joined: 17-September 09
From: Longmont, CO
Member No.: 10,819
Region Association: None



For the tubing experts out there...
Can I do this:

Cut off the flared end of my 3/8" steel line.

Slide one 6AN "tube nut" ( http://www.jegs.com/i/Earls/361/581806/100...roductId=749390 ) over the end.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.jegs.com-10819-1292939161.1.jpg)

Slide one 6AN "tube sleeve" ( http://www.jegs.com/i/Earl%26%23039%3Bs/361/581906/10002/-1) over the end.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.jegs.com-10819-1292939161.2.jpg)

Flare using a single flare tool.

Thread in a 6AN to Hose barb fitting ( http://www.jegs.com/i/Aeromotive/027/15635/10002/-1 )

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.jegs.com-10819-1292939162.3.jpg)

Connect to my 30R9 5/16" FI hose with a hose clamp?

I thought that would work, but I wanted to verify before I purchased.

Am I missing something?
I know that a standard AN fitting has a 37 degree flare while a SAE flare is 45 degrees. Isnt this exactly what the "tube sleeve" is for to compress the AN fitting onto the 45 deg. flare sufficiently to seal?

This will be at the high pressure end of the fuel lines, so I want it right.

Stu
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
ArtechnikA
post Dec 21 2010, 09:02 AM
Post #3


rich herzog
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 7,390
Joined: 4-April 03
From: Salted Roads, PA
Member No.: 513
Region Association: None



QUOTE(stugray @ Dec 21 2010, 08:46 AM) *

Flare using a single flare tool.

Yes, as long as you use a 37º flare.
QUOTE
...
I know that a standard AN fitting has a 37 degree flare while a SAE flare is 45 degrees. Isnt this exactly what the "tube sleeve" is for to compress the AN fitting onto the 45 deg. flare sufficiently to seal?



The 'tube sleeve' is designed to do what you want - for a 37º AN flare fitting.

It is _not_ an AN->SAE adapter.

Just get the right flaring tool and you should be OK.

Be aware that the stainless with work-harden so you'll get just one chance. If there is a problem, you'll get to cut off the flared region and try again. For this reason, I would probably suggest either an abrasive cutoff wheel or hacksaw to make the cut, rather than a tubing cutter in this application.

All this information is available in app notes on the Earl's website for free...
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
stugray   AN fitting vs fuel line size?   Nov 14 2010, 10:35 PM
strawman   AN sizing is pretty straightforward: take the numb...   Nov 14 2010, 11:05 PM
jasons   The AN sizes you cross referenced are wrong. As a...   Nov 14 2010, 11:41 PM
stugray   Thanks for that! It makes sense now (never tr...   Nov 14 2010, 11:42 PM
jasons   I'm not sure I can answer your question, but I...   Nov 15 2010, 12:03 AM
ArtechnikA   So should I run 8-AN (1/2" ID steel braided ...   Nov 15 2010, 04:36 AM
ME733   ....Unless you are running fuel injection....you w...   Nov 15 2010, 05:43 AM
pcar916   -6AN will be fine. I'm using it for my return ...   Nov 15 2010, 09:50 AM
stugray   Ok, Thanks for all the help. Brant came over and...   Nov 18 2010, 05:12 PM
jd74914   Sorry to rain on your parade but you're plan d...   Nov 18 2010, 09:18 PM
GeorgeRud   :agree: The braided lines look nice, but don...   Nov 18 2010, 09:51 PM
ArtechnikA   :agree: The braided lines look nice, but don...   Nov 18 2010, 10:07 PM
Rotary'14   If you decide to use rubber hose fuel line,, be su...   Nov 18 2010, 10:05 PM
campbellcj   I went with metal tube thru the tunnel with proper...   Nov 18 2010, 11:40 PM
stugray   Ok, so I have done the following: Verified that I...   Dec 20 2010, 02:21 PM
stugray   For the tubing experts out there... Can I do this:...   Dec 21 2010, 07:46 AM
ArtechnikA   Flare using a single flare tool. Yes, as long as ...   Dec 21 2010, 09:02 AM
stugray   ArtechnikA, Thanks for the reply. The 3/8" ...   Dec 21 2010, 10:08 AM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 8th July 2025 - 09:51 PM