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| VaccaRabite |
Dec 20 2010, 08:08 PM
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This thread will document my teardown and rebuild of a Chevy 350 small block engine.
This may be old hat to many of you, but I have never done it before and figured some of you may be interested as well, especially if you are considering putting one of these into your 914. The engine that I am starting with is a 4 bolt main block truck engine out of a 1985 Chevy K20 3/4 ton pickup. I am not yet sure what the engine will be when I am done with it. I want to build a 383 stroker engine. But, the parts for this engine are so nice that I may stick with stock displacement and just go with better heads and intake. The heads and intake have all the smog stuff on them, so they are not going to be used. Enough with words. Time for pictures. First, lay out your tools on the rear trunk of your old Porsche. Only the finest work jacket will do to keep the paint scratches to a minimum. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm6.static.flickr.com-1435-1292897321.1.jpg) For tear down you need 4 wrench sizes (all inch sizes). 3/8, 7/16, 9/16, and 5/8th. You will want to have these sizes in deep sockets and wrenches. You will want to have at least one breaker bar to break torque on most of the 9/16 and 5/8 bolts. Also a rubber hammer, pry bar, and scraper will be needed. The beast: (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm6.static.flickr.com-1435-1292897321.2.jpg) This is the engine that I am going to be tearing down. It was pulled out of the donor truck Dec 10th and mounted on the engine stand the next day. Don't even think of trying to do this without an engine stand. This 1000 pound stand only cost $50, and it is money well spent. Fair bet my 914 has a little bit of engine envy right now.... Valve covers first. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm6.static.flickr.com-1435-1292897322.3.jpg) Valve covers need to come off first, as they impinge removing the intake. One off in the picture above. You need a 7/16 deep socket to take off the nuts that hold the valve covers on. Lots of sealant was used here. Valve covers, carb and intake are off. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm6.static.flickr.com-1435-1292897323.4.jpg) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm6.static.flickr.com-1435-1292897324.5.jpg) Pretty easy so far. Time to go for the heads. The rods going into the block are all the push rods. They come up from the cam and operate the valves. The orange ball of fire is my heater. 70K BTU of warmth to stave off the cold, even with the garage door open. I even had to take off my warm overalls, as I started sweating with the heater and the overalls both. The intake was attached with 9/16th bolts. There was considerable sealant used, and getting the intake off was difficult. I ended up using a pry bar to get it started, and hold it up enough to get my fingers in there to pull the rest off. First head is off. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm6.static.flickr.com-1435-1292897325.6.jpg) This is the point where I had to do some soul searching. It was pristine! The cylinder walls look like they were just done. There was no carbon ring at the top of the cylinders, which is common for an engine with miles on it. The PO of the donor truck said the engine had been rebuilt 4000 miles ago. But given the condition of the truck and the electrical system (the spark plugs were rusted and fell apart on removal) I had my doubts. Now, though... it took a fair deal of will power to not just button the engine back up again and put new heads and intakes on it. But, I am a stubborn man at times... I am going to rebuild this engine, darn it! This is how I learn. The heads bolts were 5/8s and were heavily torqued. I needed a breaker bar to get them started. With the heads off I took off the pulley and damper. The damper was a PAIN to get off. Lots of prying with the pry bar all over to keep it from cocking. One of those things where I probably should have used a puller, but I did not have one the right size or the desire to go and get one. to be continued.... |
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| VaccaRabite |
Jan 8 2011, 07:16 PM
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My 383 dreams have been killed.
A sizable stipend that I was promised at work has been rescinded due to "budget cuts." So, now I am going to be pretty much forced to reuse the pistons, crank and rods that I tore down. I figure that I have gone from around $3K that I could put into this engine to about $1000. I am going to need to go back to the drawing board and see what can be cobbled. Zach |
| messix |
Jan 8 2011, 07:41 PM
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AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 6,995 Joined: 14-April 05 From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada Member No.: 3,931 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
My 383 dreams have been killed. A sizable stipend that I was promised at work has been rescinded due to "budget cuts." So, now I am going to be pretty much forced to reuse the pistons, crank and rods that I tore down. I figure that I have gone from around $3K that I could put into this engine to about $1000. I am going to need to go back to the drawing board and see what can be cobbled. Zach no big deal! you can still build a good engine from that stuff. clean the engine your self, get some bore brushes and brake clean and wire brushes and do the cleaning your self. borrow some micrometers and check the taper of the cylinder bores. a few .001's won't hurt. get a bearing and ring kit, and if the bores are good just use a "bottle brush" hone [actually a glaze breaker] and put a cross hatch in the cylinders for the rings to seat to. rent a cam bearing tool to install those. spend your money on: -heads, if you can come up with the 850 for the after market vortech heads that is where you will see the best bang for buck. the after market heads can come with both intake and valve cover bolt pattterns. -cam, call the cam co. and tell them the heads intake and compression and what the engine is going into and they can give you the best cam pick. -intake, you can find on craigs list and e-bay cheap. -headers. a set of shorty or mid length can be found e-bay or craigs list. shop and wait for the deals. |
Vacca Rabite The small block thread Dec 20 2010, 08:08 PM
Vacca Rabite Heads are off, and it’s time to remove the oil p... Dec 20 2010, 08:09 PM
Vacca Rabite The cam is still in the block. I have not yet fig... Dec 20 2010, 08:10 PM
stewteral
The cam is still in the block. I have not yet fi... Dec 21 2010, 03:57 PM
messix
[quote name='Vacca Rabite' post='1407803' date='D... Dec 21 2010, 04:28 PM
SirAndy [quote name='stewteral' post='1408099' date='Dec 2... Dec 21 2010, 09:29 PM
scotty b 350's are junk. Get a 440 for that p.o.s. A 44... Dec 20 2010, 08:17 PM
hot_shoe914 I sure hope you had the factory spec Folgers coffe... Dec 20 2010, 10:18 PM
914.SBC
I sure hope you had the factory spec Folgers coff... Dec 20 2010, 10:35 PM
Gint A stock 350 bottom end rebuild with a decent cam a... Dec 20 2010, 10:54 PM
messix get a long bolt to thread into the cam and pull it... Dec 21 2010, 01:17 AM
Vacca Rabite
did you see the small plug on both sides of the b... Dec 21 2010, 07:40 AM
scotty b Before you go assuming you ned a line bore, clean ... Dec 21 2010, 07:43 AM
hot_shoe914 B)-->
Vacca Rabite Lets talk intake and cam.
I would like this engine... Dec 21 2010, 08:52 AM
ArtechnikA
Lets talk intake and cam.
I would like this engin... Dec 21 2010, 09:33 AM
Andyrew I have an RV cam in my engine, but its one of the ... Dec 21 2010, 10:13 AM
andys After some experience with the GEN III Chevy motor... Dec 21 2010, 11:12 AM
messix the 383 build reuses the rods.
a 383 kit has the ... Dec 21 2010, 11:30 AM
ArtechnikA
a mild 383 built right will have big block type t... Dec 21 2010, 11:47 AM

messix
a mild 383 built right will have big block type ... Dec 21 2010, 12:36 PM

ArtechnikA
well coming from some one that bought a ..... for... Dec 21 2010, 01:08 PM
andys
the ls motors are awesome but you loose the k.i... Dec 21 2010, 01:59 PM
Vacca Rabite I have to say I am not to worried about breaking p... Dec 21 2010, 09:19 PM
messix
I have to say I am not to worried about breaking ... Dec 21 2010, 10:21 PM
kg6dxn If it's going in a truck, I say go with the 38... Dec 21 2010, 09:32 PM
hot_shoe914 Completely stripped it is easily movable by one pe... Dec 21 2010, 09:34 PM
messix have you looked up the vortec heads? Dec 21 2010, 10:22 PM
Vacca Rabite
have you looked up the vortec heads?
About 30 m... Dec 22 2010, 07:06 AM
scotty b Definitely worth looking for a set. The thing to n... Dec 22 2010, 07:08 AM
messix B)-->
Vacca Rabite Cams.
I have been reading on cam selection.
My bl... Dec 28 2010, 10:22 PM
messix with proper break in oil and the cam gets a moly g... Dec 28 2010, 11:11 PM
charliew After breakin use diesel motor oil it still has al... Dec 29 2010, 09:19 AM
Vacca Rabite I am nearly done stripping the block for the machi... Dec 29 2010, 03:09 PM
messix the machinist will remove the cam bearings.
it ta... Dec 29 2010, 03:23 PM
scotty b For what this is going in you really don't nee... Jan 8 2011, 07:44 PM![]() ![]() |
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