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> 21mm Torsion Bars 4 914/4?
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post Jan 24 2011, 09:52 PM
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Is anyone running 21mm torsion bars on a stock 914/4? How stiff is it? Just curious as I know sometimes even the little adjustment/upgrade in the suspension can be more than ideal.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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Eric_Shea
post Jan 25 2011, 01:05 AM
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What a love fest (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)

I'd never put 21's on a street car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jan 25 2011, 02:23 AM
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I'd never put 21's on a street car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


What would you do for a pure street car that needs suspension work on all 4 corners? I just bought Midtowner's '73 2L. It has 140lb. springs, old Konis that need to be replaced/rebuilt, and stock front/rear sway bars. The car has noticeable bump steer and I find the ride to be harsh. Looking for a more comfortable ride without losing too much of its responsive handling.
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post Jan 25 2011, 08:41 AM
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what an excellent purchase for you....that car is a time capsule...
get new Bilstein shocks or get the Konis rebuilt.
Possibly new suspension bushings...when these get old brittle and dry I feel they add as much harshness to the ride as shocks and springs do.
Possibly got to 100# rear springs.
Raise the car just a bit will also help the ride and the bump steer.

Ride harshness is all in the the butt of the driver. What is harsh to you may be soft to someone else (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)




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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Jan 24 2011, 11:05 PM) *


I'd never put 21's on a street car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


What would you do for a pure street car that needs suspension work on all 4 corners? I just bought Midtowner's '73 2L. It has 140lb. springs, old Konis that need to be replaced/rebuilt, and stock front/rear sway bars. The car has noticeable bump steer and I find the ride to be harsh. Looking for a more comfortable ride without losing too much of its responsive handling.

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post Jan 25 2011, 12:02 PM
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QUOTE(DanT @ Jan 25 2011, 06:41 AM) *

what an excellent purchase for you....that car is a time capsule...
get new Bilstein shocks or get the Konis rebuilt.
Possibly new suspension bushings...when these get old brittle and dry I feel they add as much harshness to the ride as shocks and springs do.
Possibly got to 100# rear springs.
Raise the car just a bit will also help the ride and the bump steer.

Ride harshness is all in the the butt of the driver. What is harsh to you may be soft to someone else (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)




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We need to see some new pics of your new car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



Dan, you're right, the car is remarkably well preserved for being 38 years old and having 90,000 miles on it. It still boggles my mind that the paint is original. I feel very fortunate to have purchased it from Erik.

I am leaning (nudge, nudge) toward your idea of 100lb. springs, standard Bilsteins, and rubber bushings from Elephant. I think that will get the car close to a stock ride and still have adequate performance in the twistys.

Regarding pics, I actually haven't taken any of the car yet (other than a quick snap of it in the garage next to my '66 Mustang) but the car is exactly the same as the last time you saw it. Here is one of my favorites pictures, the famous one with your #5 in Erik's driveway:
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detoxcowboy   21mm Torsion Bars 4 914/4?   Jan 24 2011, 09:52 PM
r_towle   I did 23mm bars...to stiff. the best setup is stoc...   Jan 24 2011, 10:31 PM
detoxcowboy   I did 23mm bars...to stiff. the best setup is sto...   Jan 24 2011, 10:44 PM
r_towle   upgrade the front bar and dont be cheap about it. ...   Jan 24 2011, 10:48 PM
DanT   depending on your total suspension front and rear,...   Jan 24 2011, 10:49 PM
r_towle   I would agree with Dan, but with a single acceptio...   Jan 24 2011, 10:53 PM
DanT   again it depends on what it is all balanced with ....   Jan 24 2011, 11:01 PM
r_towle   It depends upon the purpose of the car. For track....   Jan 24 2011, 11:47 PM
DanT   :agree: :D   Jan 25 2011, 12:06 AM
Eric_Shea   What a love fest :wub: I'd never put 21's...   Jan 25 2011, 01:05 AM
dlkawashima   I'd never put 21's on a street car. ;) ...   Jan 25 2011, 02:23 AM
nsr-jamie   I'd never put 21's on a street car. ;)...   Jan 25 2011, 06:44 AM
DanT   what an excellent purchase for you....that car is ...   Jan 25 2011, 08:41 AM
r_towle   what an excellent purchase for you....that car is...   Jan 25 2011, 08:45 AM
dlkawashima   what an excellent purchase for you....that car is...   Jan 25 2011, 12:02 PM
DanT   We need to see some new pics of your new car. :D ...   Jan 25 2011, 09:25 AM
Van914   Mine is set up: 21mm bars 19mm front sway 180# rea...   Jan 25 2011, 09:04 AM
DanT   If Erik's old car still has the same tire/whee...   Jan 25 2011, 09:23 AM
sean_v8_914   van914 set up is good but stiff for street comfy ...   Jan 25 2011, 09:31 AM
pcar916   I like mine to handle like a cart. It's a dail...   Jan 25 2011, 10:08 AM
yeahmag   I currently have: 21mm torsion bars 19mm sway bar...   Jan 25 2011, 12:08 PM
r_towle   Aaron, Talk with Brad, he suggested I go back to s...   Jan 25 2011, 02:19 PM
Eric_Shea   What Dan said. I really like stock sway bars fo...   Jan 25 2011, 03:33 PM
yeahmag   Rich, Its on my todo list if the heavier springs ...   Jan 25 2011, 05:21 PM


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