1970 European Wiring Harness, Fog Light Switch? Options

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I placed this post in the Garage as well, but maybe it's more appropriate here. So, I'm installing my wiring harness (4 cylinder), it is a european harness. I'm making this assumption based on one main observation (although there are others that seem to support it). The observation- this is a new harness (unfortunately I do not have the part number... sad.gif ), there are NO wires going to what would be the side marker lights. Nothing (absolutely certain) has been cut, I can trace all wires and there never were any side marker light wires.

So, my problem is this, there seems to be no wiring coming out of the harness in the passenger compartment area for a fog light switch, there are, however, wires for fog lights up near the front bumper area where they should be. The main wire (white with a yellow stripe) enters the passenger compartment area and goes to a relay, which then jumps directly to the combination relay, from there there are no wires that would normally go to a switch.

I know that there was some different functionality with the Euro fog light operation, but what exactly was the difference? Do the fog lights turn on any time the headlights are on, meaning no need for a fog light switch? Do I need a special head light switch?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!! biggrin.gif


Dan

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[quote name='SirAndy' date='Mar 21 2011, 01:06 PM' post='1447194']
[quote name='RON S.' post='1447137' date='Mar 21 2011, 10:19 AM']probably due to different lighting laws.[/quote]
That Sir, was my point ...

I know for a fact that the law in Germany does prohibit the use of fog-lights with your high-beams. That is the current law and that was the law in 1970.

Fog-lights are wired to only run with the low beams. They must shut off when you switch to the high beams.

Every car i ever owned in Germany was wired that way. It's the law.


Note that i don't use the word "driving lights" on purpose as they were NOT driving lights from the factory. Ever.

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PS: If you cars lights work differently, someone along the way must have changed the wiring.


[quote name='Jasfsmith' date='Mar 24 2011, 06:33 AM' post='1448474']
[quote name='SirAndy' post='1448164' date='Mar 23 2011, 05:18 PM']
[quote name='Jasfsmith' post='1447545' date='Mar 22 2011, 06:23 AM'] I can flash them when in low beam as well.[/quote]
If you can flash the fog-lights, someone did indeed change your wiring ...

http://www.jwesteng.com/porsche/914/fog.htm

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Not I, and I seriously doubt that the prior owner (a doctor) did it. When the weather warms up, I'll try to trace the wiring.
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[quote name='SirAndy' date='Mar 24 2011, 07:30 PM' post='1448734']
[quote name='ArtechnikA' post='1448681' date='Mar 24 2011, 05:12 PM']He's not talking about fog lights, he's talking about the driving lights...
( My Euro 6 had them too... )[/quote]
Well i'll be damned ...

German cars, especially of that period didn't have "driving lights" they way American cars have them.

The only thing i can think of is that because the headlights were otherwise hidden, Porsche added a additional driving light option to replace the fog-lights???

I can honestly say i have never seen this on any other German car of that vintage.

Time to whip out my PET copy and do some digging ...
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Andy,
I wasn't trying to BS anyone with my inquiry. I am glad my response has generated some good discussion about the wiring issue. Attached are a photo of the "DRIVING LIGHTS" and the left side dash of my car.

This car is an original -6 numbered 9140430841. I bought as a rusting hulk off a local car lot back in 1998. The PO was a former Army man who brought the car back over here from Germany when he returned to Fort Hood Texas. The car is a full Euro car, every detail that separates the Euro market cars from the American market ones was in place when I got it. I actually feel lucky having a "Different kinda car".
I will repeat myself in saying that I personally removed the dash wiring harness during my restoration, and I actually WAS looking for evidence of someone butchering up the wiring harness to make the lights function the way they do. However, I witnessed NO evidence of any kind of tampering at all. All factory connections and taping is INTACT. All factory leads are only long enough to reach their plug in destinations on the light switch and the emergency flasher switch. Again, when I got the car there was NO hole in the vinyl dash fascia to indicate that a fog light switch had ever been there and been removed. When The car is running, and I pull the turn signal switch toward me, the driving lights will come on.
I must believe that it is originally the way it was wired when it left the factory. At least I know I'm not alone in this setup. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


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