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McMark
post May 9 2011, 12:55 PM
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I was talking with a 914 owner about engines and the cost-benefit of a Subaru swap. This person is looking to build a street-legal car that will serve for track duty. But AFAIK, PCA has restrictions on non-Porsche engine participation.

So, since I know most of you all are far more familiar with the regulations and options than I am, I'm looking for information on what sorts of restrictions does PCA place on non-Porsche engine swaps? What other options for track days are available (nationally, but SF Bay Area specifically)? Is building a non-PCA-legal car a shot in the foot? Or is PCA somewhat irrelevant because of availability of other options?

What are your thoughts here? And I'm looking specifically at track days, and not autocrosses, but I'm interested in learning about AX info as well.
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post May 10 2011, 11:37 AM
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only your interpretation of our current rules Chris. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
That is why I want it stated in language that is plain and simple...

our current language:
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(g) U.S. Delivered Cars: Cars are defined as U.S. model specification Porsches that were normally delivered to the U.S. public for general road use through the manufacturer's authorized sales outlets.

I maintain that a 912 was not delivered with a type1 motor with a VW serial number on it.
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post May 11 2011, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(DanT @ May 10 2011, 11:37 AM) *

our current language:
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(g) U.S. Delivered Cars: Cars are defined as U.S. model specification Porsches that were normally delivered to the U.S. public for general road use through the manufacturer's authorized sales outlets.



your rules seem to say a porsche is as delivered... ie no suby motors
I'm confused now because your rules don't allow suby-teeners yet you say that its fine... I suppose your just filling slots?
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post May 12 2011, 12:22 AM
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QUOTE(brant @ May 11 2011, 10:03 PM) *

QUOTE(DanT @ May 10 2011, 11:37 AM) *

our current language:
3.0
(g) U.S. Delivered Cars: Cars are defined as U.S. model specification Porsches that were normally delivered to the U.S. public for general road use through the manufacturer's authorized sales outlets.



your rules seem to say a porsche is as delivered... ie no suby motors
I'm confused now because your rules don't allow suby-teeners yet you say that its fine... I suppose your just filling slots?


Well thats where it gets a bit complicated. If you read it that way, you aren't allowing any modifications.

The rules don't say what that actually means. Where are we going to draw the line? We will have to come up with an answer for next year's rules.
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McMark   Subaru Engine Track Days & PCA   May 9 2011, 12:55 PM
J P Stein   It depends on the local region. For DE, ORPCA let...   May 9 2011, 03:54 PM
brant   Ditto to what JP said it depends on the region you...   May 9 2011, 04:27 PM
Chris Hamilton   I am autocross co-chair in GGR, the region you are...   May 10 2011, 10:40 AM
McMark   Thanks for the tip Chris. Hopefully it'll fit...   May 10 2011, 10:56 AM
DanT   you have always been able to AX your Porsche chass...   May 10 2011, 10:57 AM
Chris Hamilton   As far as what Chris is referring to, a group of ...   May 10 2011, 11:31 AM
DanT   only your interpretation of our current rules Chri...   May 10 2011, 11:37 AM
brant   our current language: 3.0 (g) U.S. Delivered Cars...   May 11 2011, 11:03 PM
Chris Hamilton   our current language: 3.0 (g) U.S. Delivered Car...   May 12 2011, 12:22 AM
Heater Guy   I was talking with a 914 owner about engines and ...   May 11 2011, 01:03 AM
Randal   [quote name='McMark' post='1475109' date='May 9 2...   May 11 2011, 09:44 AM
Heater Guy   [quote name='McMark' post='1475109' date='May 9 ...   May 11 2011, 08:15 PM
DanT   hey Ron, did you get your brake issues sorted out?...   May 11 2011, 10:18 AM
Heater Guy   hey Ron, did you get your brake issues sorted out...   May 11 2011, 08:02 PM
DanT   That language is from the classification portion o...   May 12 2011, 09:41 AM
grantsfo   I dont see GGR rules as confusing at all. If you ...   May 12 2011, 03:21 PM
Chris Hamilton   If you want to run in series for points you must...   May 12 2011, 04:04 PM
Heater Guy   [quote name='grantsfo' post='1476853' date='May 1...   May 12 2011, 05:01 PM
DanT   If you want to run in series for points you mus...   May 12 2011, 05:23 PM
Chris Hamilton   Dan, it is not at all clear from those rules becau...   May 12 2011, 06:12 PM
DanT   If I were driving a Car that was running a type1 V...   May 12 2011, 06:27 PM
Chris Hamilton   If it came down to not running for points or takin...   May 12 2011, 06:30 PM
DanT   Porsche chassis, yes. Porsche motor, no. Sorry we...   May 12 2011, 08:09 PM
grantsfo   Chris, I have been part of PCA since 1969 as a fa...   May 13 2011, 10:38 PM
Chris Hamilton   I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree a...   May 13 2011, 11:25 PM
BKLA   I'm not in any position to comment... But I...   May 14 2011, 08:21 AM
sean_v8_914   I am one of the cheif driving instructors here in ...   May 14 2011, 10:56 AM
J P Stein   there is allways one person who wants to change t...   May 14 2011, 11:17 AM
grantsfo   PCA Mission The Porsche has no equal, and since 19...   May 14 2011, 12:03 PM
BKLA   Grant, that's a purdy piece o' sculpture t...   May 14 2011, 07:52 PM
914v   How about a 911 or a 914 with a porsche motor with...   May 15 2011, 12:24 PM
grantsfo   How about a 911 or a 914 with a porsche motor wit...   May 15 2011, 12:41 PM


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