Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> Spoilers, SCCA legal
Randal
post May 22 2011, 09:38 AM
Post #1


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,446
Joined: 29-May 03
From: Los Altos, CA
Member No.: 750




Down at AAS yesterday.

All the modified cars had huge spoilers. I thought 8" was the limit, but it looked more like a foot.

Got to figure out what is legal and get one of those puppies on 222.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
J P Stein
post May 26 2011, 07:54 PM
Post #2


Irrelevant old fart
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 8,797
Joined: 30-December 02
From: Vancouver, WA
Member No.: 45
Region Association: None



Grant always needs to have the last word so here it is....His thread from another forum without comment:




http://axpaddock.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=667

He has deleted stuff in the past to cover his tracks so be quick.

5-11-11
"So stock motor blew after a several thousand miles with stock 6500 rpm rev limiter with extra cooling, etc. And from my experience shift point is far below redline on stock 2.5 so shifts are more like 6200 rpm. I'm still not convinced m96 is something I ever want to touch again. mine blew first track event, Andrew blew his, several others have blown with relatively low miles and now Lucille. All stock low revving motors. I just don't see stock motors blowing so often as a great thing. I know stock air cooled 6s that have run much longer with regular track work. Think i have to admit i agree with JP that these motors stink. No worries about me running a spec boaster ever. Even m97 appears to have issues from what I see with racing Caymans.

I just say this as I have chased Larry's nealy 200K mile RSA around tracks, see it show up for tons of AX's and it seems to be still running fine. Tired but no broken pistons, slipped sleaves, fried cam bearings, blown RMS seals etc. We just see tons of issues with Boxster motors. Given their fairly mild tune and low RPMs I'm just suprised they fail so often. Well not really when I see the poor design execution in the motors. I was shocked when I saw my motor torn arpart. Lots of short cuts made on this mass produced powerplant.

Only motor Porsche seems to have dialed in is GT3 power plant. I'm waiting for 996 GT3 prices to come down more. Or I may go back to another air cooled P car.

Owner of my Boxster race car is going with LN Engineering block and tons of work to make it more reliable but dang thats expensive! Its a shame as I love the chassis on the Boxster and really understand how to build one now. I just cant stand the motor and lack of resources to go after its inherent weaknesses."
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
jjackson
post May 26 2011, 08:32 PM
Post #3


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 219
Joined: 5-October 10
From: maumelle, arkansas
Member No.: 12,246
Region Association: None




Sooo.... being from Arkansas and everything-it gets my attention when there are any pig quotes addressing lipstick issues-you know...barefoot and all......Randal
how is the spoiler plan coming along.The 100 sq inch endplates make for an interesting question.Also mesuring at 10" high at midpoint of your trunk-squared off and extending to the width of your flares.Simple design if your trunk was fixed.What if you were three pieces-the outers pieces with endplates permanently attached to car-say with some sort of closer flap when all three pieces aligned?
(our non wing closed off flap is grey duct tape)Just thinking about original thread.JJackson
BTW 1/4 inch lexan is really stout for drilling,countersinking,and attaching appendages. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)



.

.

.


User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
J P Stein
post May 26 2011, 08:37 PM
Post #4


Irrelevant old fart
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 8,797
Joined: 30-December 02
From: Vancouver, WA
Member No.: 45
Region Association: None



QUOTE(jjackson @ May 26 2011, 07:32 PM) *

Sooo.... being from Arkansas and everything-it gets my attention when there are any pig quotes addressing lipstick issues-you know...barefoot and all......

.

.

.



Jeeze, I didn't mean to get ya'll.....er... aroused or sumthin'. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
jjackson
post May 26 2011, 08:54 PM
Post #5


Member
**

Group: Members
Posts: 219
Joined: 5-October 10
From: maumelle, arkansas
Member No.: 12,246
Region Association: None



2 Piece trunk lid-fiberglass -front pinned-rear fixed -closed off and effective? Just thinking.JJackson




User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Randal
post May 26 2011, 10:27 PM
Post #6


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,446
Joined: 29-May 03
From: Los Altos, CA
Member No.: 750



QUOTE(jjackson @ May 26 2011, 07:54 PM) *

2 Piece trunk lid-fiberglass -front pinned-rear fixed -closed off and effective? Just thinking.JJackson



Yea, why wait to start the down force. Start it right behind the engine and create some huge down force.

Just lift the back of the trunk lid, like 10 inches minus the thickness of the lid, fill in the gaps and man there is a big airfoil.

Use Gurney flaps for end plates.

I like it.

Sure would look funny, but would probably work.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
Randal   Spoilers   May 22 2011, 09:38 AM
J P Stein   Down at AAS yesterday. All the modified cars h...   May 22 2011, 09:57 AM
jjackson   Down at AAS yesterday. All the modified cars ...   May 22 2011, 02:55 PM
jjackson   [quote name='J P Stein' post='1481800' date='May ...   May 22 2011, 04:04 PM
Randal   [quote name='J P Stein' post='1481800' date='May...   May 22 2011, 05:00 PM
jjackson   Randal-How did you do -underspoilered and all........   May 22 2011, 07:25 PM
PeeGreen 914   Love to see pictures of yours Jay :beer2:   May 22 2011, 07:47 PM
jjackson   Love to see pictures of yours Jay :beer2: Mine i...   May 22 2011, 08:03 PM
J P Stein   Details, details....this ain't Prepared class....   May 22 2011, 07:47 PM
jjackson   Details, details....this ain't Prepared class...   May 22 2011, 08:06 PM
Randal   Pretty interesting rear spoiler. Man that puppy ...   May 22 2011, 08:13 PM
Randal   He must have read the rule that JP just posted. C...   May 22 2011, 08:17 PM
J P Stein   He must have read the rule that JP just posted. ...   May 22 2011, 08:31 PM
Randal   One that that I could do before Medford is just mo...   May 22 2011, 08:57 PM
J P Stein   I read some where/some time that a 65 degree AOA w...   May 23 2011, 03:15 AM
jjackson   I read some where/some time that a 65 degree AOA ...   May 23 2011, 07:45 AM
PeeGreen 914   What did you find in that article? :beer2:   May 23 2011, 11:13 AM
Randal   What did you find in that article? :beer2: T...   May 23 2011, 04:00 PM
jjackson   What did you find in that article? :beer2: ...   May 23 2011, 07:48 PM
jjackson   What did you find in that article? :beer2: Tha...   May 23 2011, 08:04 PM
jjackson   [quote name='PeeGreen 914' post='1482...   May 23 2011, 08:52 PM
PeeGreen 914   I know some use big ol airdams with splitters but ...   May 23 2011, 09:20 PM
jjackson   I know some use big ol airdams with splitters but...   May 24 2011, 05:20 AM
PeeGreen 914   I know some use big ol airdams with splitters bu...   May 24 2011, 11:19 AM
jjackson   I was thinking of taking a sheet of steel, taking ...   May 24 2011, 12:04 PM
campbellcj   FWIW I made my front spoiler/dam removable for tra...   May 23 2011, 11:04 PM
jjackson   FWIW I made my front spoiler/dam removable for tr...   May 24 2011, 05:11 AM
Randal   FWIW I made my front spoiler/dam removable for tr...   May 24 2011, 08:17 AM
jjackson   [quote name='campbellcj' post='1482694' date='May...   May 24 2011, 12:12 PM
grantsfo   Be sure to consider venues you plan to run with fr...   May 24 2011, 03:30 PM
campbellcj   Good point. Bumpy/irregular venues are the exact r...   May 24 2011, 07:39 PM
jjackson   [attachmentid=260885 Pix of our setup.Took me a ...   May 25 2011, 05:40 AM
jjackson   Forgive for pix in trailer. Missed one.JJacks...   May 25 2011, 05:56 AM
Randal   Forgive for pix in trailer. Missed one.JJack...   May 25 2011, 08:58 AM
grantsfo   Forgive for pix in trailer. Missed one.JJack...   May 25 2011, 01:31 PM
jjackson   Forgive for pix in trailer. Missed one.JJac...   May 25 2011, 01:47 PM
PeeGreen 914   Wow Jay, that looks very cool :beer2: Hey, so it...   May 25 2011, 10:10 AM
jjackson   Wow Jay, that looks very cool :beer2: Hey, so i...   May 25 2011, 11:28 AM
Britain Smith   Can you give me details on the swirl fuel tank you...   May 25 2011, 12:03 PM
jjackson   Can you give me details on the swirl fuel tank yo...   May 25 2011, 12:48 PM
Britain Smith   Here is my rear spoiler with endplates: http://ww...   May 25 2011, 12:06 PM
Randal   What motor are you running in the FP car JJ?   May 26 2011, 08:55 AM
jjackson   What motor are you running in the FP car JJ? Fir...   May 26 2011, 09:31 AM
PeeGreen 914   What motor are you running in the FP car JJ? Fi...   May 26 2011, 09:34 AM
Randal   What motor are you running in the FP car JJ? Fi...   May 26 2011, 10:01 AM
J P Stein   I mean 4's don't have a "nice c...   May 26 2011, 11:19 AM
jjackson   [quote name='jjackson' post='1483839' date='May 2...   May 26 2011, 01:52 PM
grantsfo   I wish we had more flexibility with the Boxster mo...   May 26 2011, 11:51 AM
jjackson   I wish we had more flexibility with the Boxster m...   May 26 2011, 01:42 PM
J P Stein   All production cars have shortcomings. All product...   May 26 2011, 01:45 PM
jjackson   All production cars have shortcomings. All produc...   May 26 2011, 01:57 PM
grantsfo   All production cars have shortcomings. All produ...   May 26 2011, 05:20 PM
J P Stein   Grant always needs to have the last word so here i...   May 26 2011, 07:54 PM
jjackson   Sooo.... being from Arkansas and everything-it get...   May 26 2011, 08:32 PM
J P Stein   Sooo.... being from Arkansas and everything-it ge...   May 26 2011, 08:37 PM
jjackson   2 Piece trunk lid-fiberglass -front pinned-rear fi...   May 26 2011, 08:54 PM
Randal   2 Piece trunk lid-fiberglass -front pinned-rear f...   May 26 2011, 10:16 PM
Randal   2 Piece trunk lid-fiberglass -front pinned-rear f...   May 26 2011, 10:27 PM
jjackson   [quote name='jjackson' post='1484160...   May 27 2011, 05:49 AM
Randal   [quote name='jjackson' post='1484160...   May 27 2011, 08:31 AM
J P Stein   It would be difficult to do the Kiessel type end p...   May 27 2011, 08:51 AM
jjackson   It would be difficult to do the Kiessel type end ...   May 27 2011, 09:41 AM
Randal   It would be difficult to do the Kiessel type end...   May 27 2011, 05:58 PM
jjackson   Wish you would draw me a picture of that two piece...   May 27 2011, 08:41 PM
Randal   Wish you would draw me a picture of that two piec...   May 27 2011, 10:20 PM
J P Stein   I think that guy who build the all aluminum tank ...   May 28 2011, 08:34 AM
Randal   [quote name='Randal' post='1484669' date='May 27 ...   May 28 2011, 09:11 AM
jjackson   I think that guy who build the all aluminum tank c...   May 28 2011, 07:33 PM
Randal   It would be difficult to do the Kiessel type end...   May 28 2011, 09:15 AM
jjackson   Slept on it-Reality is were putting out ideas in f...   May 28 2011, 10:20 AM
J P Stein   While the 2 piece trunk is also workable it means ...   May 28 2011, 10:05 AM
Randal   While the 2 piece trunk is also workable it means...   May 28 2011, 11:02 AM
J P Stein   When one is operating on a limited budget there ar...   May 28 2011, 11:11 AM
hot_shoe914   Don't forget the GoPro group buy is still goi...   May 29 2011, 10:22 PM
Borderline   I think you might be getting carried away with the...   May 30 2011, 11:02 AM
J P Stein   Bill: That's the nice thing about building a ...   May 30 2011, 08:52 PM
Borderline   Bill: That's the nice thing about building a...   May 30 2011, 11:20 PM
URY914   Bill: That's the nice thing about building a...   May 31 2011, 05:12 AM
grantsfo   Bill: That's the nice thing about building ...   May 31 2011, 04:13 PM
J P Stein   Per SCCA rules, E Mods cannot use wings......XP ca...   May 31 2011, 07:27 AM
J P Stein   more   May 31 2011, 07:29 AM
J P Stein   more   May 31 2011, 07:31 AM
J P Stein   more   May 31 2011, 07:36 AM
J P Stein   Results 2011 Lincoln National Tour...   May 31 2011, 07:37 AM
Randal   Paul posted this over in the Sandbox: This is w...   May 31 2011, 05:02 PM
grantsfo   Paul posted this over in the Sandbox: This is ...   Jun 1 2011, 11:02 AM
Randal   Paul posted this over in the Sandbox: This is ...   Jun 3 2011, 11:15 AM
Brad @ Auto Atlanta   My EP car is allowed the same 10" rule as the...   Jun 4 2011, 04:01 PM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 2nd June 2024 - 12:25 PM