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O.K., I'm better now... D-jet is driving me to drink. The 1.7 starts and runs well until it warms up. After 10 min. idling smoothly @ 900 it hesitates two or three times and stops idling at all, which means I can't keep it running long enough to set the timing. I can keep it going by feathering the throttle, but my nice smooth idle is gone. I reproduced the symptom three times in a row today. By clamping off the Vac hoses one-by-one it appears the FI components seem to be doing what they're supposed to. No other vacuum or capacitance probs. found so far. Haven't checked the injectors. This started after I repaired the ground strap on my distributor -- must have bumped something else. CHT? I have the FI diagnostic checklists and am working on them. If this was a carburetor I'd say it was running with a clogged idle jet (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) . These symptoms seem specific and uncommon. At least I've not seen others posts that describe the same thing. Did I miss one? |
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Unplug and cap all vacuum lines at the plenum. the only line that should be plugged into the plenum is the MPS vacuum. How is the idle then? Set valves, dwell, and timing. How is the idle? If its still bad, and it still shows signs of dropping off after its hot...check your CHT for the proper Ohm readings for your ECU. Anders site has the correct readings for your ECU and your CHT... Each year is a bit different. If that fails...there is are three more things that affect idle. Failed MPS...runs to rich and stalls Failed Cold Start Injector , always open, runs rich and stalls Poorly adjusted TPS...runs rich and stalls. You really need to ensure your ignition system is set properly before any FI diagnostics...you will chase your tail if the valves are adjusted wrong, or your dwell and timing are off....even just a little bit. Djet is very sensitive to proper dwell and timing for the idle speed. Djet and Ljet are both early systems and are both a guess at best for the proper A/F settings. Both systems suck. When the LH jet was introduced...that has the O2 sensor and the feedback made the system self adjust...then they had a decent system. Rich Here's what I am presently dealing with: -1.7 D-jet -Good compression all 4 -Tune-up, dwell, timing and valves set to specifications per Haynes. -No obvious vacuum hoses leak (air/idle screw adjustment now affects idle speed.) -Starts at 900 RPM, after 5 minutes it rises to 1500 RPM. Idle is steady and smooth. -Clamping the AAR hose on supply side bring idle back down to 900. -Disconnecting and plugging manifold connections has no significant effect. -At 15 minutes run time, the engine begins to miss and then stalls after about 2 minutes. Reving motor and/or unclamping AAR doesn't prevent stall. -Exhaust smells rich when engine stalls--assume flooding. Per Haynes FI trouble shooting section: "engine starts cold then stalls:" = MAPS or CHT. This is consistent with the opinions of several members here. Tomorrow, I will: -Check CHT resistance value -Go through diagnostic procedure on MPS. Anything else? Where will I find a serviceable MPS if mine's kaput? |
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