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> Suspension Advice Needed, Front bars, shocks and rear springs.
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post May 22 2011, 09:08 AM
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Building a Street/Track car, think more track than street. The car is flared with 16x7's and 16x8's. Building a 2.4 6 with 2.2S p/c's and 911 front suspension. I need some advice on front torsion bar size, rear springs, inserts/shocks, and sway bar size. Thanks. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

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post Jun 7 2011, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(J P Stein @ Jun 7 2011, 09:16 PM) *


911 M rear calipers are a good match for the A fronts. Tarett makes a good anti roll bar. I *think* Chuck Morland (Elephant Racing) sells bronze rear bushings for the 914.
Edit: Ayup, he does. $315 for the kit thru Pelican.


They are my second choice. Clint from Rebel said they had a kit in the works. It's similar to their fronts with the exception of a tube insert you weld (or lock with a nut) into the trailing arm. It seems like a better fix IMHO than relying on the poly to deform. I would think they might not be true to each other and bind a bit. If they don't come through I'll go with the Elephant.


QUOTE(grantsfo @ Jun 7 2011, 09:32 PM) *


You may want to go with a little more rear spring than 225. I settled with 250 to 275 depending on venue. And I had 19mm front torsions. The car pushed too much with anything less and that was without a LSD initially. No rear bar.



I'm a bit worried about that myself. Chris recommended 200 and so did Clint. I went a bit heavier with you guys suggesting 250 to 275. If I push I'll install my rear bar. If I get wheel spin I'll go to a heavier spring.

You'll have to excuse my ignorance. Whats the difference between the M and SC rear caliper? I don't know jack about 911 rears.
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QUOTE(jmill @ Jun 7 2011, 08:27 PM) *


I'm a bit worried about that myself. Chris recommended 200 and so did Clint. I went a bit heavier with you guys suggesting 250 to 275. If I push I'll install my rear bar. If I get wheel spin I'll go to a heavier spring.

You'll have to excuse my ignorance. Whats the difference between the M and SC rear caliper? I don't know jack about 911 rears.


I'd bet Chris and Clint are more on the ball than any of these guys here. Greg has said 200-225 is perfect for a 914 with no rear bar. Since Greg is an actual race engineer for a big race team and has won nationals with a 914 that gives him a lot of leverage. Chris and Clint as well have shown they know their stuff.

JP, Randall, Me, Grant, are all guys with different opinions and life experiense but nothing really to show for it. Take what we say with a grain of salt (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

If you can find a rear caliper that has a bigger piston without going to a vented rotor you will be better off. Eric will know what you can do.
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Greg has said 200-225 is perfect for a 914 with no rear bar. Since Greg is an actual race engineer for a big race team and has won nationals with a 914 that gives him a lot of leverage.


It depends on which front T/AR bars one is using.

Blanket statements (which seems odd for Greg) like that are usless.....but if you want to go with that, be my guest.

Brit recently went to 325 lb rear springs which cured the push that popped up after the approx. 100 lb Subie weight gain..... in lieu of softening the front AR bar.
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jmill   Suspension Advice Needed   May 22 2011, 09:08 AM
J P Stein   Building a Street/Track car, think more track tha...   May 22 2011, 10:17 AM
Downunderman   The very first thing to decide is whether you are ...   May 22 2011, 02:43 PM
jjackson   The very first thing to decide is whether you are...   May 22 2011, 03:08 PM
jmill   Thanks for the input guys. I want to go as far as...   May 22 2011, 03:30 PM
J P Stein   Thanks for the input guys. I want to go as far a...   May 22 2011, 07:33 PM
jmill   Tried calling Clint from Rebel Racing and his mach...   May 25 2011, 01:26 PM
jjackson   Tried calling Clint from Rebel Racing and his mac...   May 25 2011, 02:02 PM
grantsfo   Tried calling Clint from Rebel Racing and his ma...   Jun 6 2011, 01:59 PM
jjackson   [quote name='jjackson' post='1483471' date='May 2...   Jun 6 2011, 03:05 PM
Randal   [quote name='jjackson' post='1483471' date='May ...   Jun 7 2011, 10:10 AM
jmill   Alright, bought a boat load of stuff from PMB and ...   Jun 2 2011, 07:40 PM
jjackson   Alright, bought a boat load of stuff from PMB and...   Jun 2 2011, 08:28 PM
PeeGreen 914   Around $6 to $7k the last timeI talked t...   Jun 7 2011, 10:20 AM
J P Stein   Around $6 to $7k the last timeI talked ...   Jun 7 2011, 01:27 PM
grantsfo   [quote name='PeeGreen 914' post='1489884' date='J...   Jun 7 2011, 04:08 PM
J P Stein   When JP's car was beaten by stock Miatas...   Jun 7 2011, 06:18 PM
PeeGreen 914   There are many mods you can do at different price ...   Jun 7 2011, 02:21 PM
PeeGreen 914   There is no question that an adjustable shock is n...   Jun 7 2011, 04:28 PM
jmill   Easy fellas.... We'll zip'em down and show...   Jun 7 2011, 07:04 PM
J P Stein   Easy fellas.... We'll zip'em down and sho...   Jun 7 2011, 08:16 PM
Randal   So in round numbers: Koni's - less than ...   Jun 7 2011, 08:02 PM
grantsfo   I would talk with Performance Shock. He offered m...   Jun 7 2011, 08:32 PM
jmill   911 M rear calipers are a good match for the A f...   Jun 7 2011, 09:27 PM
brant   You'll have to excuse my ignorance. Whats th...   Jun 7 2011, 10:10 PM
PeeGreen 914   I'm a bit worried about that myself. Chris ...   Jun 8 2011, 10:14 AM
J P Stein   Greg has said 200-225 is perfect for a 914 wit...   Jun 8 2011, 10:37 AM
grantsfo   I'm a bit worried about that myself. Chris...   Jun 8 2011, 10:59 AM
PeeGreen 914   Remeber setup for AX car is a lot differnt from t...   Jun 8 2011, 01:41 PM
J P Stein   SCs are 'M'. The problem I had with The st...   Jun 8 2011, 07:42 AM
J P Stein   BTW: "nothing to show for it". With Brit...   Jun 8 2011, 10:50 AM
PeeGreen 914   BTW: "nothing to show for it". With Bri...   Jun 8 2011, 01:44 PM
J P Stein   ] JP, let me ask this honestly, is this because ...   Jun 8 2011, 08:14 PM
sooba_dave   My $ .02. In the January Pano, Mr. Mayo an...   Jun 8 2011, 02:01 PM
jmill   Building a Street/Track car, think more track tha...   Jun 8 2011, 08:18 PM
grantsfo   [quote name='jmill' post='1481773' date='May 22 2...   Jun 9 2011, 01:33 PM
brant   JP, not arguing but now I'm curious I get a ...   Jun 8 2011, 08:26 PM
J P Stein   JP, not arguing but now I'm curious I get a...   Jun 8 2011, 08:55 PM
brant   I'm no expert ( no real racin' here) but ...   Jun 8 2011, 11:13 PM
grantsfo   besides. These are momentum cars. If you are he...   Jun 9 2011, 01:56 PM
J P Stein   The problem I had with the rears were with 914 *re...   Jun 8 2011, 11:35 PM
Eric_Shea   This is because I believe you have your theory o...   Jun 9 2011, 06:17 PM


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