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> Throw-out bearing?, Help with diagnosis please
rjames
post Jun 18 2011, 01:33 PM
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When pressing down on the clutch pedal (clutch disengaged) I hear a high pitch whining/whirring noise. Happens whether the car is moving or not. Noise does not happen with the clutch engaged. (clutch pedal released) Car shifts pretty good, but I think I'm running out of room to adjust the clutch on the clutch cable. (Another issue that probably points to something needing replacement)

I've been searching through posts for an hour and my best guess is throwout bearing. Yes? No?

And whatever it is, can I make repair without removing the engine?

Thanks!
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post Jun 18 2011, 02:26 PM
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Sounds like a throw out bearing is squealing for sure. I have the same thing going on in my car right now. I have heard of some people "re-packing" the bearing to quiet them down. of course on pelican they tell you to replace it with every clutch replacement . These go for something like 125 dollars. so if you bought your car without putting a clutch in it ... the PO could have reused the bearing from a previous clutch. Or it could of sat for really long time before you got to it. I doubt that clutch cable tension is the culprit. although you should consider that maybe the clutch cable tube has broken its welds and is moving around thusly changing the tension of the cable. To remove the bearing you have to separate the motor from the trans. ALso the running out of adjustment could mean that your cable is getting ready to snap.

Hope this helps. Nice to meet another Robert with a teener in the PNW

QUOTE(rjames @ Jun 18 2011, 12:33 PM) *

When pressing down on the clutch pedal (clutch disengaged) I hear a high pitch whining/whirring noise. Happens whether the car is moving or not. Noise does not happen with the clutch engaged. (clutch pedal released) Car shifts pretty good, but I think I'm running out of room to adjust the clutch on the clutch cable. (Another issue that probably points to something needing replacement)

I've been searching through posts for an hour and my best guess is throwout bearing. Yes? No?

And whatever it is, can I make repair without removing the engine?

Thanks!

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post Jun 19 2011, 03:00 PM
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QUOTE(Ductech @ Jun 18 2011, 01:26 PM) *

Sounds like a throw out bearing is squealing for sure. I have the same thing going on in my car right now. I have heard of some people "re-packing" the bearing to quiet them down. of course on pelican they tell you to replace it with every clutch replacement . These go for something like 125 dollars. so if you bought your car without putting a clutch in it ... the PO could have reused the bearing from a previous clutch. Or it could of sat for really long time before you got to it. I doubt that clutch cable tension is the culprit. although you should consider that maybe the clutch cable tube has broken its welds and is moving around thusly changing the tension of the cable. To remove the bearing you have to separate the motor from the trans. ALso the running out of adjustment could mean that your cable is getting ready to snap.

Hope this helps. Nice to meet another Robert with a teener in the PNW



Ductech, thanks for the info. My clutch tube is ok (repaired in the past already). Ill make sure I don't have the clutch cable too tight (I did adjust it recently, and before I heard the noise) and then plan on replacing the clutch. I assume that just replacing the entire clutch is worth doing 'while I'm in there'. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Does anyone sell a full clutch kit with everything I need to refresh all of the parts that should be replaced 'while I'm in there'?
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post Jun 24 2011, 12:43 AM
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QUOTE(rjames @ Jun 19 2011, 02:00 PM) *

QUOTE(Ductech @ Jun 18 2011, 01:26 PM) *

Sounds like a throw out bearing is squealing for sure. I have the same thing going on in my car right now. I have heard of some people "re-packing" the bearing to quiet them down. of course on pelican they tell you to replace it with every clutch replacement . These go for something like 125 dollars. so if you bought your car without putting a clutch in it ... the PO could have reused the bearing from a previous clutch. Or it could of sat for really long time before you got to it. I doubt that clutch cable tension is the culprit. although you should consider that maybe the clutch cable tube has broken its welds and is moving around thusly changing the tension of the cable. To remove the bearing you have to separate the motor from the trans. ALso the running out of adjustment could mean that your cable is getting ready to snap.

Hope this helps. Nice to meet another Robert with a teener in the PNW



Ductech, thanks for the info. My clutch tube is ok (repaired in the past already). Ill make sure I don't have the clutch cable too tight (I did adjust it recently, and before I heard the noise) and then plan on replacing the clutch. I assume that just replacing the entire clutch is worth doing 'while I'm in there'. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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Does anyone sell a full clutch kit with everything I need to refresh all of the parts that should be replaced 'while I'm in there'?


Oh dear god .... I hate to say this but i think pelican parts has a complete clutch kit for some good penny..... What i would do is source a cheaper bearing and then wander thru the used goodies on here ... get a clutch disk with about 9 mm thickness as they come with about 10 mm new if i remember correctly.... someone could quote me on this. I wouldn't be opposed to using a slightly used disc to save some money.... as long as it wasn't bathed in oil... sometimes people upgrade and leave their still only half used parts in the garage. see what you can find if your willing. I look at it as there are two ways 1 is money, the 2nd is time.... usually if you don't have the time to put it all together (i.e. find the parts slightly used) then you end up paying the money to have someone gather the parts for you into a kit. Also using used clutch parts means you must be willing to realise that you may need to take the motor out and do it again sooner than you want to. What do you have ? Money or time?
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