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> LED Conversion - snafus?
mcbrems
post Jun 23 2011, 01:33 PM
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Hey All,

I swapped all of my bulbs for LEDs from Autolumination and/or
superbrightleds, and have encountered some unexpected issues. Replacing the
turn signal flasher was a known. I tried TimK's hack on the CF13 GL-02
flasher, and when installed and engaged, it just sat there, although the
hazard flashers worked fine (it seems to work on the same relay). I noticed
this aftermarket "LED" compatible relay design leaves out the "C" ground
pin, so I have a different one on order from Autolumination that has it.
When I raise my headlights, the tachometer dials up to 3-4K and then returns
to rest. My dash instrument lights have also been replaced with tiny LEDs
to match the originals, but they only flash once briefly when the light
switch is pulled. My blue high beam indicator is lit when the parking
lights are on, and my license plate lights never come on.

I picked up a 1974 color wiring diagram from Prospero's Garage (
http://stores.ebay.com/Prosperos-Wiring-Di...sid=p4340.l2563 ) and
noticed that many of the wires that connect to the computer are tied
together. I cut that part of the harness off and tied off all of those
wires individually (see image). I'm wondering if I need to reconnect some
of those wires to preserve the original circuit path.

<http://914electric.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/elect_danglies.jpg>
http://914electric.files.wordpress.com/201...ct_danglies.jpg

Does anybody have similar experiences? Also, is there a good source for the
factory color wiring diagram (Prospero's diagrams do not give terminal
designations for any switches - i.e. 56A, 56, C, 32, etc.).

Much thanks for any help.

(I was informed by Mikey at 914Rubber that there is another markb, so from
now on I will be:)
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"Ask good questions, get good answers."

Here are the current flow diagrams. Couldn't find wiring diagrams for the '74.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/914_electrical_diagrams.htm

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"Ask good questions, get good answers."

Here are the current flow diagrams. Couldn't find wiring diagrams for the '74.
http://www.pelicanparts.com/914/914_electrical_diagrams.htm

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Current flow is the best wiring diagram once you get used to it. Every circuit starts at the top with +12V and ends at the bottom with ground. And _EVERY_ detail is drawn.

With the early standard diagrams there are lots of confusing parallel runs and dead ends with numbers that go to a different page, and grounds just pop up wherever they want. The layout with everything positioned as it is in the car is nice, but ultimately just adds to the confusion.

If the RoadGlue forum ever gets put up here, there are lots of pics of my EV conversion process in the Alternate Power sub-forum. I'm still taking pics, but have no place to put them as yet. I have done a complete conversion to LEDs as well, and there are two gotchas:

1) The flasher relay (must be replaced with electronically timed version, which will not drive the dash turn signal bulb(s), or you must add load resistors). My solution used a GL-02 flasher, and for the dash turn signal bulbs involved adding a pair of arrow shaped LEDs to the trim plate, wired to the turn signal wires rather than the missing 4th pin on the flasher.

2) The headlight switch only runs the dash lights full brightness. LEDs can be dimmed, but simply cut off when using a simple rheostat like the headlight switch contains.

It sounds like you have mixed up some of the wiring on the gauges...
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mcbrems   LED Conversion - snafus?   Jun 23 2011, 01:33 PM
mikey63   I have used LEDs for all lights except the dash ga...   Jun 23 2011, 02:15 PM
Cap'n Krusty   Full color factory wiring diagrams are available, ...   Jun 23 2011, 02:39 PM
mcbrems   Sorry - I wasn't clear that I am dumping the...   Jun 23 2011, 04:05 PM
mcbrems   BTW, a number of the wires you cut and capped off...   Jun 24 2011, 10:44 AM
Dave_Darling   Fuel Injection. Not applicable to your EV setup, ...   Jun 23 2011, 04:24 PM
Cap'n Krusty   This mantra is gonna become reality sometime. Or ...   Jun 23 2011, 04:57 PM
mcbrems   "Ask good questions, get good answers." ...   Jun 23 2011, 05:19 PM
914Mike   "Ask good questions, get good answers....   Jun 24 2011, 11:53 PM
Cap'n Krusty   That's because Porsche didn't produce conv...   Jun 23 2011, 06:10 PM
kg6dxn   Current flow diagrams ARE wiring diagrams. They ar...   Jun 23 2011, 10:22 PM
swl   Current flow diagrams ARE wiring diagrams. They a...   Jun 24 2011, 06:00 AM
RickS   I only replaced the gauge illumination lights with...   Jun 23 2011, 10:40 PM
mcbrems   I only replaced the gauge illumination lights wit...   Jun 24 2011, 10:37 AM
RickS   Nope - not in the least. I have to have it on ful...   Jun 24 2011, 11:34 PM
914Mike   Well, this is an EV conversion, and I want to mi...   Jun 25 2011, 12:07 AM
mcbrems   Indeed, I did convert to HID. I am still trying t...   Jun 28 2011, 05:28 PM
Dave_Darling   Dang, your picture is big!! No wonder you...   Jun 24 2011, 04:50 PM
mcbrems   Astounding! If I wash your feet with my tears...   Jun 24 2011, 11:04 PM
mcbrems   Dang, your picture is big!! No wonder yo...   Jun 4 2012, 02:34 PM
mcbrems   Here is a full composited color current flow diagr...   Jul 8 2011, 01:11 PM
TINKERGINEERING   Here is a full composited color current flow diag...   Feb 19 2024, 11:05 AM
Dave_Darling   The coil power wire looks a lot like the tach sign...   Jun 4 2012, 06:50 PM
mcbrems   I guess it makes sense that many of the wires I ex...   Jun 5 2012, 05:50 PM
swl   got any details about the conversion?   Jun 6 2012, 04:54 PM
mcbrems   As a matter of fact, here is the blog address: 91...   Jun 6 2012, 05:36 PM
swl   Very nice! Great research and fabrication. Lo...   Jun 6 2012, 06:05 PM
Cairo94507   mcbrems - WOW; I checked out your site and though ...   Jun 6 2012, 06:25 PM
mcbrems   Thanks! Hopefully, the car will be around for ...   Jun 6 2012, 06:32 PM
barefoot   If anyone is looking to replace gauge illumination...   Feb 20 2024, 07:11 AM


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