How to mount 4 point harnesses, Have GTS Seats Options

[casey944]

Purchased these wonderful seats

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/tpcracing.net-10654-1314579319.1.jpg)

and now that I am really getting the car sorted I would like to be safer... Is there an options for a harness bar that mounts behind the seats to mount a set of 4 point harnesses? Don't really want to run a sub belt for street driving although the seats have a spot for them... I honestly wouldn't mind something that also went across the door down towards the front of the floor if it all was integrated and worked well..

Any help? Would be great if i didn't lose any of the seat travel as I am a tall guy.

Thanks in advance!

[Dave_Darling]

The routing of the lap belts would worry me. If they sit right on the bolster, they aren't snug around your hips which is where they should be. The shoulder belts I am less concerned about; I know that in my case my shoulders are above the wider part of the seat anyway.

The primary function of the sub strap (single or dual) is to keep the lap belts located low on your hips, which is where they belong. Too easy to pull them upwards with the shoulder straps. This is one big reason why four-point belts are almost never recommended by anyone for actual safety. (You'd fail tech with them for DE's locally; your stock three-point belts would pass.)

For the street, three-points are preferred. If the four- (or more-) point belts are as tight as they should be for safety, you cannot turn around to look behind you. Makes backing up a lot harder, and more dangerous. You will also not be able to reach some controls, like the radio. (Yeah, I know--but I do listen to the radio in my 914!) Again, not so good for a street car.

Stick with the three-points for the street. For the track, go with a five-point setup. Check the manufacturer's recommendations about mounting for those, and check with the local safety folks about installation. Some outfits will not allow the belts to be anchored to a harness bar, so you would need eyebolts (or bolts) through the firewall to actually be the anchors. And you might have to cut away the back-pad so the contact is metal-to-metal, as some sanctioning bodies insist on that as well.

--DD