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| Radmacdaddy |
 Oct 9 2011, 06:48 AM
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Ok, so an eArlier thread discussed ring without pulling an engine. Well I had no choice as when the valves I mentioned in my earlier thread acted up the strain pushed likely worn rings too far and I had to break her open.
All has gone very smoothly up until about midnite last night when after 1 1/2 hrs of trying to get the #2 cylinder back on over the rings (#1 went right on the new rings) the rings are not compressing enough to go on!!!! I could really use some urgent advice everyone! Btw, in a pinch, other than this glitch, the engine came apart in under an hour to the pistons. In the van. I recon I'd have had her back in no time, had this not happened. Thanks! |
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| Radmacdaddy |
Oct 9 2011, 02:25 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 28-September 11 From: United States Member No.: 13,617 Region Association: None |
I got it! There was 1/16" of carbon on the topside of the piston ring slots! I scraped it out and got it all back together.
Now i am running. Did a valve adjustment using directions...2turn after touching the valve on the screw. But I'm smoking A LOT. I know some will come out for a while. It is coming out the exhaust. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
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| KELTY360 |
Oct 9 2011, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(Radmacdaddy @ Oct 9 2011, 01:25 PM)  I got it! There was 1/16" of carbon on the topside of the piston ring slots! I scraped it out and got it all back together. Now i am running. Did a valve adjustment using directions...2turn after touching the valve on the screw. But I'm smoking A LOT. I know some will come out for a while. It is coming out the exhaust. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Way to go!!! My WAG is that the rings need to seat in order for the smoke to dissipate. Give it some miles. Changing your oil soon is a good idea. |
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| Radmacdaddy |
Oct 9 2011, 03:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 28-September 11 From: United States Member No.: 13,617 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(KELTY360 @ Oct 9 2011, 05:08 PM) QUOTE(Radmacdaddy @ Oct 9 2011, 01:25 PM) I got it! There was 1/16" of carbon on the topside of the piston ring slots! I scraped it out and got it all back together. Now i am running. Did a valve adjustment using directions...2turn after touching the valve on the screw. But I'm smoking A LOT. I know some will come out for a while. It is coming out the exhaust. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Way to go!!! My WAG is that the rings need to seat in order for the smoke to dissipate. Give it some miles. Changing your oil soon is a good idea. I'm getting A LOT of smoke out the exhaust & I think I did the valve job wrong. Need to find the right thing for hydrulic. I wS told 1 1/2 turns and if the valve moves then back out to no movement. Then I found if I backed off it always took less back. I realized the lifter adjusted itself inward. So then I just followed wilsons guide of 2 turn after seating the screw, but now it's running really crappy. So that & the smoke are a real prob. Wilson also noted not to go crazy over the position of the rings. I did set the top & middle opposite & the oil ring at 90 degrees to that. But smoke ! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) |
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Radmacdaddy Urgent help needed to get cylinder back on! Oct 9 2011, 06:48 AM
vsg914 Where you at? Maybe someone close could come help... Oct 9 2011, 07:00 AM Radmacdaddy I tried sanding them a bit, should I keep at it?
... Oct 9 2011, 07:12 AM Radmacdaddy My brand new file didn't cut into them on firs... Oct 9 2011, 07:13 AM Radmacdaddy ...also, how accurate do I need to be? Will they a... Oct 9 2011, 07:16 AM vsg914 You need to file the ends of the rings. One ring a... Oct 9 2011, 07:29 AM vsg914 Oh yeah, file them just enough to fit in the cylin... Oct 9 2011, 07:32 AM Radmacdaddy Do u mean in the gap? Those ends? They don't t... Oct 9 2011, 07:34 AM vsg914 Yep. The gap between the ends of the rings when th... Oct 9 2011, 07:44 AM Radmacdaddy So... I'm not sure you are getting me. If I pu... Oct 9 2011, 07:55 AM
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So... I'm not sure you are getting me. If I p... Oct 9 2011, 07:59 AM Radmacdaddy Ok, thankfully have a 24 hour laundry matt beside ... Oct 9 2011, 08:23 AM Radmacdaddy better description: Oct 9 2011, 08:26 AM Radmacdaddy MUCH better pics... sorry. Oct 9 2011, 08:29 AM vsg914 Ok. I'm with ya now. It appears you're rin... Oct 9 2011, 08:43 AM Radmacdaddy It appears to be flush on the bottom 1/2, but like... Oct 9 2011, 08:50 AM jsconst If you compress the ring and place it in the cylin... Oct 9 2011, 09:02 AM Radmacdaddy Should I pop down to the auto store (open at 7am t... Oct 9 2011, 09:02 AM jcd914
Should I pop down to the auto store (open at 7am ... Oct 9 2011, 11:24 AM Radmacdaddy
If you compress the ring and place it in the cyli... Oct 9 2011, 09:04 AM 76-914 Either your ring compressor is catty wampus or wor... Oct 9 2011, 09:06 AM sixnotfour If the ring is free in the groove, flip your ring... Oct 9 2011, 10:26 AM Tom !/4" to 1/2" gap seems like an awful... Oct 9 2011, 12:28 PM wingnut86 The old rings come in pretty handy for cleaning th... Oct 9 2011, 01:12 PM vwsamba Take the ring off the piston, then put it in the c... Oct 9 2011, 02:11 PM messix
I got it! There was 1/16" of carbon on t... Oct 9 2011, 02:30 PM messix :confused: wondering if the bores are the same... ... Oct 9 2011, 02:28 PM Radmacdaddy In my putting her back together, what might have g... Oct 9 2011, 02:53 PM wingnut86 ...don't forget to stop and change that dang o... Oct 9 2011, 02:54 PM Radmacdaddy
I got it! There was 1/16" of carbon on ... Oct 9 2011, 02:59 PM wingnut86 ...burning oil past the rings - A LOT. Remember t... Oct 9 2011, 03:03 PM Radmacdaddy
...burning oil past the rings - A LOT. Remember ... Oct 9 2011, 03:37 PM wingnut86 The dots are your UP/DOWN guidance. Metallurgy an... Oct 9 2011, 03:06 PM Radmacdaddy Is there anyone who would be willing to let me cal... Oct 9 2011, 03:06 PM messix there are dots punched into the flat of the rings,... Oct 9 2011, 03:18 PM Radmacdaddy I'm not sure if I've lost anybody who can ... Oct 9 2011, 06:34 PM wingnut86 Rad,
Give me a buzz - I PM'd my cell # to you... Oct 9 2011, 06:55 PM rick 918-S Do you still have the old rings? If so, break the ... Oct 9 2011, 09:50 PM Radmacdaddy Ring side all set... on to proper TDC which I thin... Oct 9 2011, 09:53 PM |
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