 Ignition Starter wire to solenoid kills engine, Newby needs help w/ 1973 1.7L 914 Denver, CO |
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| Broz97 |
 Nov 29 2011, 06:53 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 6-August 11 From: Mile High Denver Member No.: 13,407 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
Hello 914 World... What a terrific site and help to anything 914. Now here is my dilemma... Need help in Denver, CO
I have been sorting my friends 1973 1.7L FI D-Jet 914 for a couple months now including all fuel and vacuum hoses, hell hole, clean and lube distributor, new points and condenser, fuel injector seals, intake rubbers, all Rennlist checks... et al. Good news.... She runs great when I start her with a remote starter... Bad news is the motor starts really hard and won.t stay running if I use the ignition switch or even attempt to push the yellow wire onto the solenoid when it is idling after a remote switch start. Of course it makes sense that maybe the ignition switch is crap and bleeding off current or...? I have ordered a new switch but... Maybe I missing something here.... Like I said it runs and is so tuneable if I remote start and dead to me if I use the ignition switch as designed. Anyone got any ideas on how to check this out... BTW, I have wrenching on bikes Triumph, BSA and most of the Japanese stuff nad a few VW bugs since the 60's and find the 914 pretty wrench friendly... |
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| TheCabinetmaker |
Nov 30 2011, 02:58 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,336 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Thats just the connection to make the fasten seat belt light on the dash go off. Rich is speaking of a large relay bolted to the floor with several wires two of which are large yellow ones. It doesn't look like you have one from your pics. If you don't have that relay, your problem is elsewhere. Where are you hooking the yellow wire too on the starter?
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| Broz97 |
Nov 30 2011, 03:16 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 6-August 11 From: Mile High Denver Member No.: 13,407 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(vsg914 @ Nov 30 2011, 01:58 PM)  Thats just the connection to make the fasten seat belt light on the dash go off. Rich is speaking of a large relay bolted to the floor with several wires two of which are large yellow ones. It doesn't look like you have one from your pics. If you don't have that relay, your problem is elsewhere. Where are you hooking the yellow wire too on the starter? Hello Curt, Thanks for jumping in here.... I just tested that circuit for the seat and as you said it is just for the F'n seatbelt light... As to your question I am pushing the yellow wires blade connector onto the blade atop the solenoid... more information... When the yellow wire is connected to the solenoid at the uppermost connector the car will crank and start but I lose Fuel Injection to the #2 cylinder (could not check the other cyl on those distrib FI breaker points without a helper as the car will not idle long enough)... If I remote start the car I have FI to all four cyls and it runs beautifully, idles etc... (Additional background info: When I took over fixing the car I found a white FI wire on the plus side of the coil.. The car ran super rich and the FI was growling all the time.. As per many have said on this forum I moved that white wire to the neg side of the coil which is where it is now.. don't know if there is any relationship to my current dillemma or not...). All help appreciated.. thanks, Broz97 |
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| Broz97 |
Nov 30 2011, 03:20 PM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 6-August 11 From: Mile High Denver Member No.: 13,407 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(Broz97 @ Nov 30 2011, 02:16 PM) QUOTE(vsg914 @ Nov 30 2011, 01:58 PM) Thats just the connection to make the fasten seat belt light on the dash go off. Rich is speaking of a large relay bolted to the floor with several wires two of which are large yellow ones. It doesn't look like you have one from your pics. If you don't have that relay, your problem is elsewhere. Where are you hooking the yellow wire too on the starter? Hello Curt, Thanks for jumping in here.... I just tested that circuit for the seat and as you said it is just for the F'n seatbelt light... As to your question I am pushing the yellow wires blade connector onto the blade atop the solenoid... more information... When the yellow wire is connected to the solenoid at the uppermost connector the car will crank and start but I lose Fuel Injection to the #2 cylinder (could not check the other cyl on those distrib FI breaker points without a helper as the car will not idle long enough)... If I remote start the car I have FI to all four cyls and it runs beautifully, idles etc... (Additional background info: When I took over fixing the car I found a white FI wire on the plus side of the coil.. The car ran super rich and the FI was growling all the time.. As per many have said on this forum I moved that white wire to the neg side of the coil which is where it is now.. don't know if there is any relationship to my current dillemma or not...). All help appreciated.. thanks, Broz97 BTW, a couple other points... with the yellow wire off the solenoid the fuel pump runs constantly.... without the yellow wire it does no (this is all pre-cranking, engine static) |
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Broz97 Ignition Starter wire to solenoid kills engine Nov 29 2011, 06:53 PM
brant I don't know the answer
doesn't sound like... Nov 29 2011, 07:02 PM
Broz97
I don't know the answer
doesn't sound lik... Nov 30 2011, 10:00 AM r_towle look under the passenger seat.
If you see what loo... Nov 30 2011, 10:29 AM majkos :popcorn: Progress ?
I'm in Lakewood, so sor... Nov 30 2011, 11:17 AM Broz97
:popcorn: Progress ?
I'm in Lakewood, so so... Nov 30 2011, 12:34 PM r_towle not sure if you have it...its a 73/74 thing...one ... Nov 30 2011, 12:45 PM Broz97
not sure if you have it...its a 73/74 thing...one... Nov 30 2011, 01:36 PM Broz97
[quote name='r_towle' post='1581041' date='Nov 30... Nov 30 2011, 02:19 PM rnellums
not sure if you have it...its a 73/74 thing...one... Nov 30 2011, 07:06 PM Broz97
not sure if you have it...its a 73/74 thing...on... Nov 30 2011, 07:22 PM vsg914 White wire on the coil? Where does it go? What oth... Nov 30 2011, 04:33 PM underthetire Er, green should be on the -. That should be from ... Nov 30 2011, 07:51 PM Broz97
Er, green should be on the -. That should be from... Nov 30 2011, 08:07 PM majkos No, the problem is car is running but the wires is... Nov 30 2011, 08:20 PM 76-914 Now I'm confused about the logic board. I have... Nov 30 2011, 08:38 PM majkos :toke:
weird, huh? Nov 30 2011, 08:41 PM Broz97
:toke:
weird, huh?
Thanks guys for adding som... Dec 1 2011, 12:38 PM underthetire Move the green wire and try to figure out where th... Nov 30 2011, 09:40 PM 76-914 Who needs trigger points, just wire them all in ho... Nov 30 2011, 09:44 PM majkos
Who needs trigger points, just wire them all in h... Nov 30 2011, 09:54 PM underthetire
Who needs trigger points, just wire them all in ... Nov 30 2011, 10:10 PM majkos
[quote name='majkos' post='1581287' date='Nov 30 ... Nov 30 2011, 10:13 PM rick 918-S
If you click on the picture you will get a c... Nov 30 2011, 09:50 PM majkos Dam Rick!
You're good :first: Nov 30 2011, 09:56 PM phatnine11 never mind, brain fart!
Cesar Nov 30 2011, 10:03 PM jcd914 At the coil there should be a black and red wire g... Dec 1 2011, 12:58 AM cwpeden How does the relay board look? Bad Starter realy ... Dec 1 2011, 01:33 AM vsg914 Move the green wire to the- side of the coil. Remo... Dec 1 2011, 05:40 AM Tom Broz97,
Someone has done some rewiring. Here i... Dec 1 2011, 09:11 AM majkos So the remote starter is clipped to the starter it... Dec 1 2011, 01:52 PM SLITS Starter wire.....
Comes from ignition switch to P... Dec 1 2011, 04:54 PM majkos That make sense.
Now Broz, get out there and chec... Dec 1 2011, 05:14 PM SLITS And I should have added that the white wire that g... Dec 1 2011, 06:12 PM Broz97
And I should have added that the white wire that ... Dec 1 2011, 10:40 PM jcd914
And I should have added that the white wire that... Dec 1 2011, 11:13 PM Broz97
[quote name='Broz97' post='1581815' date='Dec 1 2... Dec 10 2011, 02:40 PM vsg914 There is one more white wire in that area, but onl... Dec 10 2011, 03:46 PM Broz97
There is one more white wire in that area, but on... Dec 16 2011, 08:55 AM vsg914 If you would have listened to us to begin, with yo... Dec 16 2011, 09:31 AM |
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