 Ignition Starter wire to solenoid kills engine, Newby needs help w/ 1973 1.7L 914 Denver, CO |
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| Broz97 |
 Nov 29 2011, 06:53 PM
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 6-August 11 From: Mile High Denver Member No.: 13,407 Region Association: Southwest Region  |
Hello 914 World... What a terrific site and help to anything 914. Now here is my dilemma... Need help in Denver, CO
I have been sorting my friends 1973 1.7L FI D-Jet 914 for a couple months now including all fuel and vacuum hoses, hell hole, clean and lube distributor, new points and condenser, fuel injector seals, intake rubbers, all Rennlist checks... et al. Good news.... She runs great when I start her with a remote starter... Bad news is the motor starts really hard and won.t stay running if I use the ignition switch or even attempt to push the yellow wire onto the solenoid when it is idling after a remote switch start. Of course it makes sense that maybe the ignition switch is crap and bleeding off current or...? I have ordered a new switch but... Maybe I missing something here.... Like I said it runs and is so tuneable if I remote start and dead to me if I use the ignition switch as designed. Anyone got any ideas on how to check this out... BTW, I have wrenching on bikes Triumph, BSA and most of the Japanese stuff nad a few VW bugs since the 60's and find the 914 pretty wrench friendly... |
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| TheCabinetmaker |
Dec 10 2011, 03:46 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,336 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
There is one more white wire in that area, but only on a 2.0 harness. It goes to the thermo switch which is mounted on the the passengers side of the plenum. The 1.7 switch is located on the other side by the throttle body. Is it possible you have a 2L harness? I believe the thermo switch on the 1.7 is fed from the cold start valve.
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| Broz97 |
Dec 16 2011, 08:55 AM
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 13 Joined: 6-August 11 From: Mile High Denver Member No.: 13,407 Region Association: Southwest Region |
QUOTE(vsg914 @ Dec 10 2011, 02:46 PM)  There is one more white wire in that area, but only on a 2.0 harness. It goes to the thermo switch which is mounted on the the passengers side of the plenum. The 1.7 switch is located on the other side by the throttle body. Is it possible you have a 2L harness? I believe the thermo switch on the 1.7 is fed from the cold start valve. 914 Nation... I am pleased to announce another happy ending and the addition of another 914 to the running population... Yesterday, I finished replacing the ignition switch with a German made switch purchased from NAPA ($25).. Upon removal I found the original switch had a crack at the top close to the tumbler section... while I do not know the switch was faulty (see pic), the replacement certainly works smoothly now. Before I tested it, I decided to pull the mystery white wire from the coil as suggested and let it hang free ... The motor cranked for about 6 revolutions and fired right up.... R you kidding me... mystery solved? Sometimes you just chase your tail... then, (taking a line from Winnie the Pooh's EEYORE) you start to say "why put my tail back on, its just going to fall off again" The "bridge to nowhere" freaking white wire mystery solved... Starts, runs, idles drives like a champ..... Happy.. does not aptly describe my buddy as he drove it out of the driveway after 3 months of cleanup and repair.. Thanks to all who took the time to read my posts, answer my questions and hypothecate a solution... Next we will tackle shift linkage bushings, sticking pass side headlight, dark L rear turn signal bulb, roof rubbers, broken Passenger door handle, etc., etc, ad infinitum... Thanks Again.... I'll be back soon I am sure.. Happy Holidays ! Broz BTW... Another challenge when changing the ign switch was the brass clip which fell out of the turn / wiper switch assembly on the floor.... another hour of fun... for those that have inquired, and, I saw a few inquires on the various forums and no solutions... here is a pic of it installed... Yeah... Attached image(s)  
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Broz97 Ignition Starter wire to solenoid kills engine Nov 29 2011, 06:53 PM
brant I don't know the answer
doesn't sound like... Nov 29 2011, 07:02 PM
Broz97
I don't know the answer
doesn't sound lik... Nov 30 2011, 10:00 AM r_towle look under the passenger seat.
If you see what loo... Nov 30 2011, 10:29 AM majkos :popcorn: Progress ?
I'm in Lakewood, so sor... Nov 30 2011, 11:17 AM Broz97
:popcorn: Progress ?
I'm in Lakewood, so so... Nov 30 2011, 12:34 PM r_towle not sure if you have it...its a 73/74 thing...one ... Nov 30 2011, 12:45 PM Broz97
not sure if you have it...its a 73/74 thing...one... Nov 30 2011, 01:36 PM Broz97
[quote name='r_towle' post='1581041' date='Nov 30... Nov 30 2011, 02:19 PM rnellums
not sure if you have it...its a 73/74 thing...one... Nov 30 2011, 07:06 PM Broz97
not sure if you have it...its a 73/74 thing...on... Nov 30 2011, 07:22 PM vsg914 Thats just the connection to make the fasten seat ... Nov 30 2011, 02:58 PM Broz97
Thats just the connection to make the fasten seat... Nov 30 2011, 03:16 PM Broz97
Thats just the connection to make the fasten sea... Nov 30 2011, 03:20 PM vsg914 White wire on the coil? Where does it go? What oth... Nov 30 2011, 04:33 PM underthetire Er, green should be on the -. That should be from ... Nov 30 2011, 07:51 PM Broz97
Er, green should be on the -. That should be from... Nov 30 2011, 08:07 PM majkos No, the problem is car is running but the wires is... Nov 30 2011, 08:20 PM 76-914 Now I'm confused about the logic board. I have... Nov 30 2011, 08:38 PM majkos :toke:
weird, huh? Nov 30 2011, 08:41 PM Broz97
:toke:
weird, huh?
Thanks guys for adding som... Dec 1 2011, 12:38 PM underthetire Move the green wire and try to figure out where th... Nov 30 2011, 09:40 PM 76-914 Who needs trigger points, just wire them all in ho... Nov 30 2011, 09:44 PM majkos
Who needs trigger points, just wire them all in h... Nov 30 2011, 09:54 PM underthetire
Who needs trigger points, just wire them all in ... Nov 30 2011, 10:10 PM majkos
[quote name='majkos' post='1581287' date='Nov 30 ... Nov 30 2011, 10:13 PM rick 918-S
If you click on the picture you will get a c... Nov 30 2011, 09:50 PM majkos Dam Rick!
You're good :first: Nov 30 2011, 09:56 PM phatnine11 never mind, brain fart!
Cesar Nov 30 2011, 10:03 PM jcd914 At the coil there should be a black and red wire g... Dec 1 2011, 12:58 AM cwpeden How does the relay board look? Bad Starter realy ... Dec 1 2011, 01:33 AM vsg914 Move the green wire to the- side of the coil. Remo... Dec 1 2011, 05:40 AM Tom Broz97,
Someone has done some rewiring. Here i... Dec 1 2011, 09:11 AM majkos So the remote starter is clipped to the starter it... Dec 1 2011, 01:52 PM SLITS Starter wire.....
Comes from ignition switch to P... Dec 1 2011, 04:54 PM majkos That make sense.
Now Broz, get out there and chec... Dec 1 2011, 05:14 PM SLITS And I should have added that the white wire that g... Dec 1 2011, 06:12 PM Broz97
And I should have added that the white wire that ... Dec 1 2011, 10:40 PM jcd914
And I should have added that the white wire that... Dec 1 2011, 11:13 PM Broz97
[quote name='Broz97' post='1581815' date='Dec 1 2... Dec 10 2011, 02:40 PM vsg914 If you would have listened to us to begin, with yo... Dec 16 2011, 09:31 AM |
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