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| Tom_T |
Dec 21 2011, 05:28 PM
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Like the title says...... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)
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| smontanaro |
Dec 21 2011, 10:06 PM
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> C : X number of buyers willing to front the money ( X $$) To put this into production
> Are you willing to find 100 people willing put up 15,000.00 + to get this thing rolling Tom ? I wonder how the British Motor Heritage was able to build MGB and TR6 bodies? (Not sure they still do.) |
| Tom_T |
Dec 21 2011, 10:15 PM
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TMI.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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> C : X number of buyers willing to front the money ( X $$) To put this into production > Are you willing to find 100 people willing put up 15,000.00 + to get this thing rolling Tom ? I wonder how the British Motor Heritage was able to build MGB and TR6 bodies? (Not sure they still do.) I think in most cases these groups are getting the original dies & spaming equipment form the OEM/factory, then setting up shop on a limited basis. There were a lot of Mustangs, Camaros, MGs, etc. in comparison to 356s, 911s/912s (early) & 914s AFAIK, so they're market is broader. Plus Porsche had Toyota come & advise them on improving their manufacturing a few years back, and Toyota told the they should concentrate on being a new car mfgr. - not a used car replacement parts supplier/mfgr. & told them to liquidate their stock of parts asap to free up factory space, which Porsche did diligently. Porsche also had the habit of destroying excess parts inventory at their distributors warehouses here in the USA (& maybe/probably elsewhere too) since the 1950s & 60s, which is how that renegade 356 guy now up in OR got his NOS parts stash & business started. So IMHO - in a sense Porsche shot themselves in the foot, since a marque like Porsche should be supporting & helping to maintain their historical fleet, as well as their new cars, because their supposed to be selling high quality & low volume (relatively speaking) production of exclusive cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) |
| scotty b |
Dec 21 2011, 10:22 PM
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rust free you say ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 16,375 Joined: 7-January 05 From: richmond, Va. Member No.: 3,419 Region Association: None |
> C : X number of buyers willing to front the money ( X $$) To put this into production > Are you willing to find 100 people willing put up 15,000.00 + to get this thing rolling Tom ? I wonder how the British Motor Heritage was able to build MGB and TR6 bodies? (Not sure they still do.) I think in most cases these groups are getting the original dies & spaming equipment form the OEM/factory, then setting up shop on a limited basis. There were a lot of Mustangs, Camaros, MGs, etc. in comparison to 356s, 911s/912s (early) & 914s AFAIK, so they're market is broader. Plus Porsche had Toyota come & advise them on improving their manufacturing a few years back, and Toyota told the they should concentrate on being a new car mfgr. - not a used car replacement parts supplier/mfgr. & told them to liquidate their stock of parts asap to free up factory space, which Porsche did diligently. Porsche also had the habit of destroying excess parts inventory at their distributors warehouses here in the USA (& maybe/probably elsewhere too) since the 1950s & 60s, which is how that renegade 356 guy now up in OR got his NOS parts stash & business started. So IMHO - in a sense Porsche shot themselves in the foot, since a marque like Porsche should be supporting & helping to maintain their historical fleet, as well as their new cars, because their supposed to be selling high quality & low volume (relatively speaking) production of exclusive cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Not so. There was an epsiode of one of those shows I desise on Speed last year where they built a IIRC a Camaro from all new parts including a main body shell and they even stated thst there were fitment issues. Had these " new" bodies been built from original dies to there would be no fitment issues. From my end in the rod world, there are several manufacturers of model A bodies and to my know knowledge NONE have the original dies, but all have been reproduced form factory blueprints |
| mepstein |
Dec 23 2011, 08:01 AM
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> C : X number of buyers willing to front the money ( X $$) To put this into production > Are you willing to find 100 people willing put up 15,000.00 + to get this thing rolling Tom ? I wonder how the British Motor Heritage was able to build MGB and TR6 bodies? (Not sure they still do.) I think in most cases these groups are getting the original dies & spaming equipment form the OEM/factory, then setting up shop on a limited basis. There were a lot of Mustangs, Camaros, MGs, etc. in comparison to 356s, 911s/912s (early) & 914s AFAIK, so they're market is broader. Plus Porsche had Toyota come & advise them on improving their manufacturing a few years back, and Toyota told the they should concentrate on being a new car mfgr. - not a used car replacement parts supplier/mfgr. & told them to liquidate their stock of parts asap to free up factory space, which Porsche did diligently. Porsche also had the habit of destroying excess parts inventory at their distributors warehouses here in the USA (& maybe/probably elsewhere too) since the 1950s & 60s, which is how that renegade 356 guy now up in OR got his NOS parts stash & business started. So IMHO - in a sense Porsche shot themselves in the foot, since a marque like Porsche should be supporting & helping to maintain their historical fleet, as well as their new cars, because their supposed to be selling high quality & low volume (relatively speaking) production of exclusive cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Not so. There was an epsiode of one of those shows I desise on Speed last year where they built a IIRC a Camaro from all new parts including a main body shell and they even stated thst there were fitment issues. Had these " new" bodies been built from original dies to there would be no fitment issues. From my end in the rod world, there are several manufacturers of model A bodies and to my know knowledge NONE have the original dies, but all have been reproduced form factory blueprints I thought they were scanning the parts and reproducing them in China. |
Tom_T SOT - I wish somebody would do this for our 914s Dec 21 2011, 05:28 PM
jimkelly $15-$16K - ouch : )
reminder to self - ... Dec 21 2011, 05:36 PM
Tom_T
$15-$16K - ouch : )
reminder to self -... Dec 21 2011, 05:42 PM
smontanaro
Porsche used to sell the 914 "body in white... Dec 21 2011, 06:46 PM
914.SBC Yeah, you can buy the body of a 1st and 2nd genera... Dec 21 2011, 05:39 PM
Tom_T
Yeah, you can buy the body of a 1st and 2nd gener... Dec 21 2011, 05:43 PM
Krieger Pretty cool! Dec 21 2011, 05:42 PM
eric9144 They have some pretty neat full body replacements ... Dec 21 2011, 05:47 PM
914.SBC Its my understanding that when you build a car fro... Dec 21 2011, 06:54 PM
McMark What gets me is there are quite a few shops on her... Dec 21 2011, 08:37 PM
SirAndy Having a brand new chassis available is novel and ... Dec 22 2011, 12:46 PM

Tom_T
[quote name='McMark' post='1592925' date='Dec 21 ... Dec 22 2011, 01:21 PM

SirAndy :idea: .....hmmmm, buy a $300 - 1000+ 40 yea... Dec 22 2011, 01:30 PM

zymurgist
Talking about how cool a brand new "body in ... Dec 22 2011, 01:44 PM

Tom_T
:idea: .....hmmmm, buy a $300 - 1000+ 40 ye... Dec 22 2011, 01:54 PM

SirAndy BTW - isn't "fairly rust free" and a... Dec 22 2011, 02:12 PM

zymurgist
There were NO takers at FREE. Maybe we should hav... Dec 22 2011, 03:01 PM
SGB Nobody has ever called me and said, "How muc... Dec 27 2011, 11:50 PM
Tom_T
Nobody has ever called me and said, "How mu... Dec 28 2011, 01:00 AM
Tom_T Skip & SBC -
I think in both cases if the rep... Dec 21 2011, 08:43 PM
Tom_T If Porsche still had a NOS body shell, drivetrain ... Dec 21 2011, 08:48 PM
scotty b It's a simple supply vs. demand issue. In orde... Dec 21 2011, 10:00 PM
zymurgist
If there were the demnd , you would see 356 and 9... Dec 22 2011, 12:55 PM
JmuRiz
If there were the demand , you would see 356 and... Dec 29 2011, 03:23 PM
Tom_T Well you sure know how to put a damper on someones... Dec 21 2011, 10:05 PM
scotty b
Well you sure know how to put a damper on someone... Dec 21 2011, 10:14 PM
Tom_T Scotty -
IIRC the MGA parts were from original di... Dec 21 2011, 10:36 PM
513mugsy I agree $15K for a new body sounds like a lot... Dec 22 2011, 01:52 PM
zymurgist
I agree $15K for a new body sounds like a lo... Dec 22 2011, 01:58 PM
Tom_T Good point Ken, as a rebodied 914 resto would prob... Dec 22 2011, 02:18 PM
ChrisNPDrider
There were NO takers at FREE. Maybe we should hav... Dec 22 2011, 02:59 PM
Rob-O In Andy's case, besides the 2000 miles, you... Dec 22 2011, 09:44 PM
mepstein
In Andy's case, besides the 2000 miles, you... Dec 23 2011, 07:58 AM
Tom_T
.... The first poster is a good example. He is in... Dec 27 2011, 01:36 AM
billh1963
[quote name='mepstein' post='1593786' date='Dec 2... Dec 27 2011, 08:13 AM
SirAndy and the last price I saw for a 914 body-in-white w... Dec 27 2011, 02:42 PM
scotty b Rob, I've actually thought about that. I think... Dec 22 2011, 09:53 PM
rohar
Rob, I've actually thought about that. I thin... Dec 22 2011, 10:18 PM
Rob-O Lots of rust free here in Texas too. I grew up in... Dec 22 2011, 10:02 PM
Tom_T No Andy.......$8k WAS the ACTUAL last price f... Dec 27 2011, 08:17 PM
SirAndy No Andy.......$8k WAS the ACTUAL last price f... Dec 27 2011, 11:31 PM
Tom_T
[quote name='Tom_T' post='1595864' date='Dec 27 2... Dec 28 2011, 12:59 AM
SirAndy Nope - last one was sold in `08 according to w... Dec 28 2011, 02:56 AM
Mikey914 Well. If our friend says that tooling would be goo... Dec 28 2011, 03:20 AM
Tom_T
Well. If our friend says that tooling would be go... Dec 29 2011, 01:02 AM
TurbOH Brad
Porsche used to sell the 914 "body in whit... Dec 28 2011, 08:41 AM
McMark According to inflation...
What cost $8000 in... Dec 28 2011, 11:57 AM
mepstein Not to mention that the 914 body is the last car i... Dec 28 2011, 01:18 PM
TurbOH Brad
Not to mention that the 914 body is the last car ... Dec 28 2011, 01:32 PM
mepstein
Not to mention that the 914 body is the last car... Dec 28 2011, 02:10 PM
rgalla9146
[quote name='TurbOH Brad' post='1596214' date='De... Dec 28 2011, 07:39 PM
Tom_T Andy, Andy, Andy..... you're calling BS with B... Dec 29 2011, 03:22 AM
SirAndy I was directed to him by a PCNA Regional Service M... Dec 29 2011, 12:37 PM
Tom_T
[quote name='Tom_T' post='1596509' date='Dec 29 2... Dec 29 2011, 01:18 PM
SGB Sometimes it is difficult to tell the diff between... Dec 29 2011, 10:22 AM
Tom_T
Sometimes it is difficult to tell the diff betwee... Dec 29 2011, 12:54 PM![]() ![]() |
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