Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> A/F meter installation and Bosch O2 sensor location, I got this for christmas. any advice on installation and location of sensor
DRPHIL914
post Dec 27 2011, 12:21 PM
Post #1


Dr. Phil
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 5,821
Joined: 9-December 09
From: Bluffton, SC
Member No.: 11,106
Region Association: South East States



I have new A/F meter from Summit racing ,
my car is a 75 2.0 d-jet that has SSHE and a Triad dual exhaust

1. where do i put the O2sensor - where to have the guys weld it

2. i think the electrical hook-up is pretty easy, but if anyone has done this and has suggestions or advice before i proceed, please do so!!!

Thanks

Phil
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies
mrbubblehead
post Dec 28 2011, 09:57 AM
Post #2


Twodollardoug
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,155
Joined: 17-December 10
From: calimesa ca.
Member No.: 12,492
Region Association: Southern California



no, your wideband does have a built in heater. i am using the older analog signal gauge. yours is the new digital signal gauge. but you still may run into the same problem. i made this bad ass heat sink from a copper plate per innovates recommendations and it still threw the error codes. so with the help of one of the guys on the innovate forum, he had me build a time delay circuit. about 30 dollars worth of parts from the electronics wherehouse.

the new digital gauges may have solved the problem already but i guess we'll find out with yours. for whatever reason at start up, our cars electrical system the alternator combined with the current rush from the starter will throw the wideband into an error code.and innovates answer is to build a heat sink and if that doesnt work then to replace the o2 sensor. right.....at 60 bucks a pop. no thank you. so you can build a simple time delay circuit. i have mine set to about 45 seconds.

now after i turn the ignition on, the timer starts its count down. 45 seconds is plenty of time to get the engine started and smoothed out. the the widebands heater function kicks in the the gauges starts metering. problem solved....if you soldering skills are adequate its a piece of cake....of i could build one for you if you need it.

let us know.... im curious to see if you have problems. and more curious to know what your A/F readings are with your fuel injection. you want your A/F to right at 12.7-13.0 at WOT. and cruising speed or 1/3 throttle position to be as lean as you can get it. with very little load, you should aim for 15.1-16.1-17.1 your engine will let you know how lean you can go before it starts protesting. that will yield you best m.p.g. i am carburated and i am getting right at 40 m.p.g. with a perfect 12.8 WOT

you can only get so lean before you start going the other way. what i mean is at some point you will be using more throttle to get the car moving at part throttle and that will start cutting into your mpg. its easy to see it with carburetors cuz you'll be on your mains before you know it. its a balancing act.

good luck and let us know your results.

one more thing....your timing will play a big roll in your tuning. a/f ratio and timing work as a team. its not like you just set your timing then tune the FI to that timing. you will set the timing then tune, reset timing retune and so on till its perfect. thats how you get some serious mileage and performance. i hope your not using a 009 dizzy. you will go in circles if you are.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Posts in this topic
Philip W.   A/F meter installation and Bosch O2 sensor location   Dec 27 2011, 12:21 PM
SLITS   Since the experts are not replying .... here's...   Dec 27 2011, 05:39 PM
ConeDodger   I don't know your system but what Slits just s...   Dec 27 2011, 06:18 PM
mrbubblehead   i put mine right after the collector. where all 4 ...   Dec 27 2011, 07:55 PM
kg6dxn   The WB sensor is heated. It does not need to go cl...   Dec 27 2011, 09:56 PM
Philip W.   The WB sensor is heated. It does not need to go c...   Dec 27 2011, 10:09 PM
Philip W.   Here is a picture of the gauge. $200.   Dec 27 2011, 10:17 PM
mrbubblehead   OH YA! youll be real happy with that. i had to...   Dec 27 2011, 10:47 PM
Philip W.   OH YA! youll be real happy with that. i had t...   Dec 28 2011, 08:58 AM
SUNAB914   What are you doing Phil?   Dec 28 2011, 07:36 AM
mrbubblehead   no, your wideband does have a built in heater. i a...   Dec 28 2011, 09:57 AM
brant   I've been running that gauge since 2006 with n...   Dec 28 2011, 10:47 AM
Scott Schroeder   I've been running that gauge since 2006 with ...   Dec 28 2011, 12:04 PM
brant   I've been running that gauge since 2006 with...   Dec 28 2011, 01:50 PM
sean_v8_914   sensor must be between 9 o clock to 3 o clock (nev...   Dec 28 2011, 11:38 AM
sean_v8_914   ps. the software is easy to use and free download ...   Dec 28 2011, 11:41 AM
michael7810   I ordered the same gauge from Innovate yesterday p...   Dec 28 2011, 11:58 AM
Cevan   I've had my LC-1 installed for two years after...   Dec 28 2011, 02:42 PM
mrbubblehead   I've had my LC-1 installed for two years afte...   Dec 28 2011, 09:18 PM
infraredcalvin   You really want a system that datalogs if you want...   Dec 28 2011, 09:03 PM
mrbubblehead   You really want a system that datalogs if you wan...   Dec 28 2011, 09:28 PM
michael7810   The MTX-L gauge has the capability to output a dat...   Dec 28 2011, 11:27 PM
sean_v8_914   very nice. its like it has a built in LC-1 • Th...   Dec 29 2011, 09:24 AM
Philip W.   Sean, thats what i thought, i says in the manual...   Dec 29 2011, 09:57 AM
Steve   Sorry for the hijack, but how is this one differen...   Dec 29 2011, 10:40 AM


Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 11th May 2025 - 03:58 AM