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> Autocross Questions, Just to clarify
EdwardBlume
post Mar 23 2004, 11:18 PM
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Jeff,

Can the registration form include a the second driver fee for the autocross? Its OK to have a 2 drivers per car.
What the AX fee you estimate?
Can we round up more local 914 folks to learn how to run an AX at the LPR April 25th event? Otherwise, its going to be really hard to run.
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post May 15 2004, 09:42 AM
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Rob. do the instructors need to be GGR or LPR instructors? I was hoping that we could use qualified instructors from out of the area as well (of course, we would just be taking their word for it). If we need GGR or LPR qualified instructors, then our list is pretty short. There is no way we will get a 1:1 ratio. We need to encourage instructors who usually attend LPR or GGR events to participate (and instruct) in our event instead. People like Howard and Andrew.

We also should consider getting anyone with enough experience on the GGR instructor list. Not exactly sure who this applies to, but Dorris comes to mind. She could be an instructor for us. For us, an instructor doesn't need to give great driving advise, they just need to know how a GGR autox operates and instruct from a safety point of view (what to do, what to expect, where to go, and when).

I know the poll said we only have about 10 newbies, but that is not accurate. I'm guessing we will have at least 20.

I highly doubt that we will have enough people to have 3 run groups. But instructors should instruct during both run groups - so we should be fine with a 2:1 ratio. It just means that instructors will not work with their students. I think we should be fine with that, but we might want to have a special meeting separate from the drivers meeting to discuss how to work the course (for the newbies who will be working the course).

Awards will be given out the next day at the swap meet lunch. It just means that we will have to tally up all the time cards on Saturday night.

GGR rules are pretty soft on allowing for non-porsches to participate. One thing to consider is that most non-porsches will be newbies. And the # of newbies is really becoming an issue with the lack of instructors. GGR will be watching us very closely and they are concerned about how many cars we have an how many newbies we have. It might be best to not allow non-porsches, and blame it on GGR that they wouldn't let non-porsches run. We should also probably refund the $35 to those who we have to turn away for this reason. What do you think?

I sure hope we are not in over our heads on this one.

Jeff - I know you mentioned that the autox is open to anyone who comes (registered or not, just pay when you get there). But I think that is a bad idea. We have more than enough. If they aren't registered, they are welcome to observe, but we shouldn't take additional registrations that morning (unless they are instructors).

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Rob Ways   Autocross Questions   Mar 23 2004, 11:18 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   I'll handle the 2nd AX driver as a special nee...   Mar 24 2004, 08:31 AM
Jeroen   <...   Mar 24 2004, 07:59 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   There are 2 sub-events indicated on the Reg Form a...   Mar 24 2004, 08:10 PM
Rob Ways   Good deal. $30 is going to GGR for the AX. ...   Mar 24 2004, 09:28 PM
VegasRacer   Rob - do we need to provide all of our own workers...   Mar 24 2004, 09:42 PM
Jeroen   <...   Mar 25 2004, 07:44 AM
Rob Ways   All N Cal events are work / run. There's no F/...   Mar 25 2004, 09:26 AM
Rob Ways   GGR says a catering truck will come out for the ev...   May 4 2004, 05:51 PM
Demick   Guys I've already got all this stuff in motio...   May 4 2004, 07:18 PM
Jeroen   I'm mostly clueless on how you guys run your A...   May 4 2004, 07:39 PM
Demick   Yep. We've got 3 classes for trophies: Stock,...   May 4 2004, 07:49 PM
Rob Ways   Nicely done. The classes will work great. Any idea...   May 4 2004, 07:55 PM
Demick   There are 59 principal registrations. All of thos...   May 4 2004, 07:58 PM
Jeroen     May 5 2004, 07:03 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Hi Demick...good news!!! Not everyone...   May 5 2004, 08:19 AM
Demick     May 5 2004, 08:27 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Will do. The question is...will B be on the lis...   May 5 2004, 08:28 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Another question: A few people have indicated on ...   May 5 2004, 08:41 AM
seanery   I say let them run, but group the NAR914s together...   May 5 2004, 08:43 AM
Demick   I also say to let them run. I agree it would be i...   May 5 2004, 08:58 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   I am assembling the registration confirmation pack...   May 5 2004, 03:51 PM
Demick   1. What time should I have our group meet at Candl...   May 6 2004, 09:35 AM
Rob Ways   The trailer thing is solved. there will be a roach...   May 9 2004, 09:51 PM
Rob Ways   do we have names and numbers for ax?   May 9 2004, 09:52 PM
Jeff Bowlsby   each car is being assigned a number. I should hav...   May 10 2004, 02:15 PM
Demick   <...   May 10 2004, 03:46 PM
Rob Ways   The rule is Porsche or PCA member (you have to own...   May 14 2004, 07:28 PM
Demick   We've got to decide ASAP whether we will allow...   May 14 2004, 08:56 PM
Rob Ways   Demick, Thanks. Honestly, I have no information ...   May 14 2004, 11:19 PM
Carl   Rob & Demick, I'm happy to help. Carl   May 14 2004, 11:40 PM
Rob Ways   Help? Awesome. What can you do? Have you autocross...   May 15 2004, 12:02 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   So is there any issue with allowing non-914s or no...   May 15 2004, 07:37 AM
Jeroen   Personally, I don't think we should let non-91...   May 15 2004, 09:30 AM
Demick   Rob. do the instructors need to be GGR or LPR ins...   May 15 2004, 09:42 AM
Jeroen   Since I don't have anything to drive anyway (e...   May 15 2004, 10:07 AM
VegasRacer   My comment from the peanut gallery is that I hope ...   May 15 2004, 10:19 AM
seanery   :agree:   May 15 2004, 10:25 AM
Demick   But it is not about what we want at this point. I...   May 15 2004, 11:07 AM
Demick   I think that I mis-spoke a few posts ago when I sa...   May 15 2004, 11:46 AM
Rob Ways   Let me clarify a few things..... Demick is right...   May 15 2004, 11:30 PM
Rob Ways   Here's an idea.... Can out of town participa...   May 15 2004, 11:38 PM
Demick   ...   May 16 2004, 08:57 AM


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