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> Aternative to the current gas prices?, T. Boone Pickens uses $1.00/gal natural Gas in his truck; Wonder what it would cost to convert the 914?
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post Mar 1 2012, 09:05 AM
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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?...Q0X01-M04KS.DTL

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http://articles.cnn.com/2012-02-29/opinion...t?_s=PM:OPINION


when i bought my 914 i was going to go EV IF i could not get the engine running, but did get it running and thus saw the $20,000 cost to convert using LiPo batteries, so passed for the time being. however, since my son is an engineering major at USC(south carolina) this subject keeps coming up.

Hydogen, Propane, compressed natural gas, all options.

this just came up yesterday with the high gas prices, Back in minnesota all of our busses ran on propane.

so why not our 914's?

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food for thought....
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As I understand it, there's less energy per unit stored in LNG/Propane/Natural Gas, so your mileage, as well as your HP, would diminish. If I had to "improve" the fuel economy of a 914, I'd do a TDi conversion. Take a LONG time to recover the costs, though, with a 10-15 MPG increase.

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QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Mar 1 2012, 07:56 AM) *

If I had to "improve" the fuel economy of a 914, I'd do a TDi conversion. Take a LONG time to recover the costs, though, with a 10-15 MPG increase.

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1.6 IDI diesel would be a cool conversion. bet you could see 55- 60mpg

WVO + home centrifuge = ???
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QUOTE(orange914 @ Mar 1 2012, 02:12 PM) *

QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Mar 1 2012, 07:56 AM) *

If I had to "improve" the fuel economy of a 914, I'd do a TDi conversion. Take a LONG time to recover the costs, though, with a 10-15 MPG increase.

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1.6 IDI diesel would be a cool conversion. bet you could see 55- 60mpg

WVO + home centrifuge = ???


Now add in propane injection for more HP and fuel efficiency and you're getting somewhere, and you can do it on biodiesel.

What's WVO?
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QUOTE(Bob L. @ Mar 19 2012, 06:44 PM) *

QUOTE(orange914 @ Mar 1 2012, 02:12 PM) *

QUOTE(Cap'n Krusty @ Mar 1 2012, 07:56 AM) *

If I had to "improve" the fuel economy of a 914, I'd do a TDi conversion. Take a LONG time to recover the costs, though, with a 10-15 MPG increase.

The Cap'n


1.6 IDI diesel would be a cool conversion. bet you could see 55- 60mpg

WVO + home centrifuge = ???


Now add in propane injection for more HP and fuel efficiency and you're getting somewhere, and you can do it on biodiesel.

What's WVO?

Propane Water/Methenol (washer fluid) apx $400 initial setup. Cools charge adds h.p.& mpg.
Next thing to do on my diesel. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)

WVO=waste vegetable oil
SVO=straight vegetable oil
WMO=waste motor oil
biodiesel=treated WVO, SVO or WMO

HYBRID is too far away from reality in refinement and expense for the average Joe. But diesel WILL run it's course first. Last year new car diesel sales UP 30% and HYBRIDS down 2.2%.
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Philip W.   Aternative to the current gas prices?   Mar 1 2012, 09:05 AM
jsconst   Propane wouldn't help much in California, it...   Mar 1 2012, 09:19 AM
monkeyboy   Propane wouldn't help much in California, it...   Mar 1 2012, 09:50 AM
vsg914   That would be T. Boone Pickens, not Tbone.   Mar 1 2012, 09:36 AM
Philip W.   That would be T.Boone Pickens, not Tbone. :rot...   Mar 1 2012, 09:44 AM
underthetire   LiPo batteries are cheap now, just sayin.   Mar 1 2012, 09:47 AM
scott_in_nh   There isn't anyplace in the 914 I'd feel c...   Mar 1 2012, 09:48 AM
billh1963   We are looking at wood gassification technology wh...   Mar 1 2012, 09:55 AM
ThePaintedMan   We are looking at wood gassification technology w...   Mar 1 2012, 10:03 AM
Cap'n Krusty   As I understand it, there's less energy per un...   Mar 1 2012, 09:56 AM
orange914   If I had to "improve" the fuel econom...   Mar 1 2012, 02:12 PM
Bob L.   If I had to "improve" the fuel econo...   Mar 19 2012, 07:44 PM
orange914   [quote name='orange914' post='1637232' date='Mar ...   Mar 19 2012, 08:21 PM
billh1963   Propane isn't nearly as efficient as gasoline....   Mar 1 2012, 09:59 AM
rick 918-S   In addition to the low energy, you need a large vo...   Mar 1 2012, 10:08 AM
Philip W.   LiPo batteries are cheap now, just sayin. when...   Mar 1 2012, 10:10 AM
underthetire   Well, I was buying 1.5 Lipo's for my airplanes...   Mar 1 2012, 10:26 AM
Philip W.   Well, I was buying 1.5 Lipo's for my airplane...   Mar 1 2012, 10:40 AM
ape914   Well, I was buying 1.5 Lipo's for my airplan...   Jul 15 2012, 12:59 AM
andys   A guy I worked with 30 years ago had a propane Che...   Mar 1 2012, 10:58 AM
Vacca Rabite   A conversion (electric, diesel, propane) is a sim...   Mar 1 2012, 11:05 AM
Vacca Rabite   I looked at LGP and LNG conversions for my old tru...   Mar 1 2012, 10:59 AM
Philip W.   http://www.switch2hydrogen.com/h2.htm or hydrogen...   Mar 1 2012, 11:03 AM
ruby914   When I started my build, I looked at the natural g...   Mar 1 2012, 11:06 AM
underthetire   Hydrogen, I see a couple test cars running around ...   Mar 1 2012, 11:26 AM
zymurgist   Personally, I think a tiny diesel hybrid set up w...   Mar 19 2012, 03:27 PM
damesandhotrods   Personally, I think a tiny diesel hybrid set up ...   Mar 19 2012, 04:11 PM
zymurgist   I don’t understand why they’re building gas/b...   Mar 19 2012, 04:24 PM
Smitty911   I don’t understand why they’re building gas/...   Mar 19 2012, 07:30 PM
ClayPerrine   I don’t understand why they’re building gas/...   Mar 19 2012, 08:23 PM
orange914   :idea: Instead of large, heavy battery packs...   Mar 19 2012, 08:32 PM
ClayPerrine   [quote name='ClayPerrine' post='1649448' date='Ma...   Mar 19 2012, 08:41 PM
ThePaintedMan   :idea: Instead of large, heavy battery packs,...   Jul 12 2012, 07:56 PM
broomhandle   This is exactly what the Toyota TS030 was equ...   Jul 13 2012, 11:10 AM
ThePaintedMan   [quote name='ThePaintedMan' post='1708479' date='...   Jul 13 2012, 11:49 AM
broomhandle   [quote name='ThePaintedMan' post='1708479' date=...   Jul 13 2012, 12:09 PM
ThePaintedMan   well, it is a race car.... haha the little audi...   Jul 13 2012, 12:42 PM
zymurgist   Yeah the Accord is a long way from what it once w...   Jul 13 2012, 12:47 PM
ape914   :idea: Instead of large, heavy battery packs...   Jul 15 2012, 01:07 AM
ThePaintedMan   Fluid units??? why not just state the kwHrs / m...   Jul 15 2012, 11:03 AM
Strudelwagon   Guys, Speaking from experience (10 years in NGV Fl...   Mar 1 2012, 11:48 AM
Philip W.   Hydrogen, I see a couple test cars running around...   Mar 1 2012, 11:57 AM
ClayPerrine   I did the research to convert my pickup to dual fu...   Mar 1 2012, 12:02 PM
Strudelwagon   I did the research to convert my pickup to dual f...   Mar 1 2012, 12:45 PM
02loftsmoor   did you get the oil leak repaired on your 6 ? ...   Mar 19 2012, 10:18 PM
ClayPerrine   Nope. It is sitting in the garage, waiting for me ...   Mar 20 2012, 04:31 PM
wingnut86   Phil, I believe much of that research has been in...   Mar 1 2012, 12:33 PM
914Sixer   My company van is set up for CNG and we would love...   Mar 1 2012, 09:53 PM
02loftsmoor   there is a couple of CNG stations in San Antonio, ...   Mar 19 2012, 10:15 PM
02loftsmoor   for one thing T Boon is using Naural Gas, in his c...   Mar 19 2012, 10:07 PM
ape914   for one thing T Boon is using Naural Gas, in his ...   Jul 15 2012, 01:12 AM
pete-stevers   this is a cool subject...it is the reason i keep a...   Mar 19 2012, 10:37 PM
Madswede   I agree, interesting topic. I like how it's mo...   Mar 19 2012, 11:36 PM
02loftsmoor   The USA is the 3rd largest producer of Natural gas...   Mar 20 2012, 05:58 AM
johannes   I watched this video yesterday... aIFFFGf1ZRE Af...   Mar 20 2012, 06:05 AM
SLITS   Pedal Cars will make a comeback!!!   Mar 20 2012, 08:36 AM
jtg   Gasoline? Propane? Natural gas? Not for me...   Jul 12 2012, 07:00 PM
broomhandle   its about what fuel is around. i grew up on diese...   Jul 13 2012, 10:51 AM
broomhandle   http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/i715....   Jul 13 2012, 01:13 PM
ThePaintedMan   :rotfl: Awesome! I'm going to save that on...   Jul 13 2012, 01:52 PM
johannes   9XUKOUbp_PA muRuHA-MREs   Jul 13 2012, 02:42 PM
lotus_65   see you in the market   Jul 15 2012, 08:08 AM
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