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| porschefile2010 |
Mar 28 2012, 01:12 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 228 Joined: 26-May 11 From: Whangaparaoa, New Zealand Member No.: 13,118 Region Association: Australia and New Zealand |
I wouldn't mind some input from the USA if possible.
Down here in NZ 914's are a rarety and my 75 2.0 is the only one I have really been close to and there are no others handy to check out. I am bare metalling the car to go back to original- so paint strip, rust kill, etch prime etc. I have noticed when I have been scraping the paint off the panels ( it's had three repaints)that the door panels have a hell of a lot of flex. The rear guards have a small amount, the fronts not too bad, but the doors! Are they all like this. There doesn't seem to be any side bars inside and they flex probably as much as 1/4 inch in the softest patches. The doors are absolutely rust free and original paint right back to the first coats so it doesn't look like there has been any bodgy repairs. So, question is this normal and if so filling and fairing must be tricky as it seems a difficult job bogging a flexi surface and then boarding it down to a fair surface? Thanks |
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| Dave_Darling |
Mar 28 2012, 02:47 PM
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Early on in the 73 model year, all of the doors got reinforcing beams on the inside, just under the skin. They're heavy, but they are to help (a bit) with side intrusion into the car. Sometimes they get removed, but as they're welded in they do leave some evidence that they used to be there.
And sometimes someone swaps in an early-73 door because they're lighter while still having the later windows and window lifts. --DD |
| Tom_T |
Mar 28 2012, 02:56 PM
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TMI.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 8,321 Joined: 19-March 09 From: Orange, CA Member No.: 10,181 Region Association: Southern California
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Early on in the 73 model year, all of the doors got reinforcing beams on the inside, just under the skin. They're heavy, but they are to help (a bit) with side intrusion into the car. Sometimes they get removed, but as they're welded in they do leave some evidence that they used to be there. And sometimes someone swaps in an early-73 door because they're lighter while still having the later windows and window lifts. --DD Dave & Richard - that era of the early no side impact beam with late window regulator doors lasted up to about Oct-Nov-Dec 72 production of the 73s, as they used "beamless" or lighter doors up before the US DOT side impact rule became effective Jan 1 73 IIRC. Also, Richar's was an RoW 75, so they may have continued to use the lighter & cheaper late doors without side impact beams on non-USA 914s well after the US DOT mandated the switch. However, apparently many, most or all of the factory replacement parts doors had no side beams (possibly not regulated to have them) & were used in accident & rust repairs, so some later MY 914s can have the light late doors - even from the USA 914s. This is in addition to guys swapping to lighter doors for weight savings & performance reasons which Dave mentions. |
porschefile2010 Panel stiffness Mar 28 2012, 01:12 AM
Tom_T Yes, the relatively flat & thin panel skins we... Mar 28 2012, 01:28 AM
porschefile2010 Thanks Tom. That's really helpful to know. The... Mar 28 2012, 02:35 AM
Tom_T
Thanks Tom. That's really helpful to know. Th... Mar 28 2012, 01:19 PM
Tom_T PS - a small magnet run over the painted surface i... Mar 28 2012, 01:20 PM
porschefile2010 Interesting. There are definately no side beams an... Mar 28 2012, 08:06 PM
porschefile2010 Oh Dear! Had another look this evening and the... Mar 29 2012, 02:37 AM
Tom_T
Oh Dear! Had another look this evening and th... Mar 29 2012, 07:20 AM
rick 918-S Not sure but most cars with side beams had some la... Mar 29 2012, 08:33 AM
ruby914 If I may expand on your topic...
I just did my fir... Mar 29 2012, 10:48 AM
ThePaintedMan
Also what is a good way to get that tar off the ... Mar 29 2012, 11:24 AM
porschefile2010 I would be careful glassing the inside unless you ... Mar 29 2012, 11:46 AM
Tom_T
I would be careful glassing the inside unless you... Mar 30 2012, 10:22 AM
ruby914 My doors don't have the beams so glass is easy... Mar 29 2012, 12:26 PM
porschefile2010 Well if you are sure your doors are in perfect sha... Mar 29 2012, 12:44 PM
porschefile2010 I understand Tom, So would we have to take the fen... Mar 30 2012, 12:57 PM
Tom_T
I understand Tom, So would we have to take the fe... Mar 30 2012, 01:59 PM
rick 918-S Post photos so we can see what your up against. :t... Mar 30 2012, 02:02 PM
Tom_T
Post photos so we can see what your up against. :... Mar 30 2012, 02:14 PM
rick 918-S
Post photos so we can see what your up against. ... Mar 30 2012, 08:47 PM
porschefile2010 I'll try tonight Mar 30 2012, 02:42 PM
porschefile2010 Sorry, these aren't great shots. On the RHS t... Mar 30 2012, 10:02 PM
porschefile2010 Bump? Mar 31 2012, 05:35 PM
rick 918-S Very poor photos but I think I get what your doing... Mar 31 2012, 09:24 PM
porschefile2010 Thanks Rick. I will take a look at the problem fro... Mar 31 2012, 10:16 PM![]() ![]() |
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