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> Why aren't 914's worth more $$$?
74porsche914
post Mar 10 2012, 08:37 PM
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Just been wondering why 914's aren't worth more moolah. In my opinion there a lot more practical then british sport cars and other sports cars from the period. Is it because there always in the shadow of the 911? Really I'm grateful there affordable or I would not own one!
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Pat Garvey
post Apr 6 2012, 07:08 PM
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I haven't had a rant in a while......

Why are 914 values lower than they should be? Several reasons, but not what everyone would think.

When I bought my 72 it cost me nearly a half years' wage. It was boxy, underpowered, and not cheap. After driving the TR6, which roasted mt feet, and being in a 6 month wait line for a 240Z (which arrived in the wrong color!) I made the committment to the 914. It was serious fun, and still is. I still own it.

That being said, here are the reasons why I feel the 914 fails to appreciate. Many of you will not like what I have to say.

The value of vintage cars (any) is determined by the desire to own one, demographics (including age of the buyer), and the condition of the car and its originality. Buyers today consider them an investment (NOT INCLIDING THIS FORUM), and expect to reap a profit at some time.

Modifications, for the most part, are detrimental to the value of the car, unless specifically condoned or performed by the factory. Ex:, a factory applied M471 package, or the factory parts supplied to a dealer for installation is OK, so long as it is documented.

As I said earlier, many of you will not be happy with what I have to say here, but it partially explains the lack of appreciation of the 914. Some examples, in no particular order.....

Six conversions - does the VIN/COA support it?
Carbs on a four - is it a euro version, with VIN/COA to match?
Shaved front side markers - see above.
Suby motors? Why?
GT converted bodywork?

These are just a few of the irreversible changes that will destroy collectability of the 914.

Raby motor, Interior changes, wheels, stereo systems can all be reversed, but when you make changes that cannot be reversed you've destroyed the 914's collectablility, and its associated sale value.

I don't know what the numbers of survivors is, be I'd be that it isn't higher than 60% of the original numbers produced (sixes excluded). That leaves about 65,000 (at best) 914-4s in the world. Those are low production numbers, and should produce higher resale values. Except.....too many have been modified beyond redemption. A four with working/intact FI is potentially collectible. A four with carbs and the FI system long gone is not. A six with a 2.0, or even an upgrade to a 2.2/2.4 is collectible. A six with a 3.2/3.6 is lost.

So, before I end my rant, and arouse the wrath of others, here is why the value of 914's does not raise in my opinion - the car lends itself to modification. Not a bad thing to the modifier who could care less about value, but a detriment to the collectability. I, as an original owner of an unmodified 914 don't care. My values will continue to rise. I also applaud those who've spent the bucks to make what they want a 914 to be - just think you've missed an opportunity.

Rant over.
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74porsche914   Why aren't 914's worth more $$$?   Mar 10 2012, 08:37 PM
74porsche914   Not planin on selling mine so price really doesn...   Mar 10 2012, 08:39 PM
scotty b   mass produced, poorly maintained, costly to restor...   Mar 10 2012, 08:41 PM
timofly   mass produced, poorly maintained, costly to resto...   Mar 10 2012, 08:51 PM
billh1963   mass produced, poorly maintained, costly to resto...   Mar 10 2012, 09:16 PM
porschefile2010   Interesting question. I think their day will come ...   Mar 10 2012, 08:44 PM
c12croft   Just been wondering why 914's aren't wort...   Mar 10 2012, 09:39 PM
MikeSpraggi   That is a good question. For me, I went into this...   Mar 10 2012, 10:12 PM
struckn   That is a good question. For me, I went into thi...   Mar 10 2012, 10:24 PM
Prospectfarms   I think that if you compair the resale cost diff...   Mar 10 2012, 11:03 PM
MikeSpraggi   That is a good question. For me, I went into th...   Mar 11 2012, 05:36 PM
larryM   same question comes up regularly on the British fo...   Mar 10 2012, 10:16 PM
DBCooper   DISCLOSURE - I own ... a Manx :thumbsup: .   Mar 11 2012, 05:55 PM
ThePaintedMan   2. the 914 cars appeal mostly to a demographic th...   Apr 7 2012, 02:39 PM
rick 918-S   Many of these cars are driver quality. They are ni...   Mar 10 2012, 10:45 PM
unpolire   Well said and I fully agree. Values will climb as...   Mar 11 2012, 11:50 AM
dgw   " the PCA 911 crowd still mostly looks askanc...   Mar 10 2012, 10:45 PM
davesprinkle   " the PCA 911 crowd still mostly looks askan...   Mar 11 2012, 05:33 PM
RickS   " the PCA 911 crowd still mostly looks aska...   Mar 11 2012, 05:57 PM
damesandhotrods   " the PCA 911 crowd still mostly looks aska...   Mar 11 2012, 09:49 PM
RobW   " the PCA 911 crowd still mostly looks aska...   Mar 12 2012, 12:59 AM
rjames   " the PCA 911 crowd still mostly looks aska...   Mar 12 2012, 10:08 AM
william1764   " the PCA 911 crowd still mostly looks askan...   Apr 6 2012, 12:31 PM
RickS   Perceived as an entry level car, with a bunch of c...   Mar 10 2012, 11:14 PM
carr914   Some Good Points Remember the OP mentioned Britis...   Mar 11 2012, 05:31 AM
Prospectfarms   Hang on. Some of those reasons sounds like "b...   Mar 11 2012, 07:40 AM
rick 918-S   I have never made a dime on a brit car. My experie...   Mar 11 2012, 08:54 AM
Prospectfarms   I have never made a dime on a brit car. My experi...   Mar 11 2012, 09:11 AM
unpolire   I have never made a dime on a brit car. My experi...   Apr 7 2012, 03:09 PM
J P Stein   I concur with the $2500 Miata bit. If I ever ...   Mar 11 2012, 09:29 AM
Germancar-Junkie   IMHO we are living in the "Barrett Jackson...   Mar 11 2012, 09:46 AM
damesandhotrods   The 914 was expensive, it was always saddled with ...   Mar 11 2012, 11:20 AM
porschefile2010   I agree unpolire. There is a little bit of magic w...   Mar 11 2012, 12:06 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   Just been wondering why 914's aren't wort...   Mar 11 2012, 07:55 PM
DBCooper   Stock, narrow body chassis' have come under a ...   Mar 12 2012, 05:36 AM
larryM   see this long parallel value thread on the Early S...   Mar 13 2012, 03:01 PM
RobW   The early 70s was an odd time for cars. Even for 9...   Mar 11 2012, 08:04 PM
Pat Garvey   The early 70s was an odd time for cars. Even for ...   Apr 6 2012, 04:59 PM
shuie   Worth more than what? It's all relative.   Mar 11 2012, 08:39 PM
Nozzle   I remember reading some time ago in a Hemmings art...   Mar 12 2012, 07:39 AM
carr914   [quote name='74porsche914' date='Mar ...   Mar 12 2012, 07:49 AM
flippa   The 914 continues to have an odd following. :a...   Mar 12 2012, 08:06 AM
reharvey   These cars have been my hobby for 20 + years. I...   Mar 12 2012, 08:18 AM
mrholland2   Sooo, "they" don't like the 4 cyl 91...   Mar 12 2012, 08:57 AM
billh1963   When I first bought mine car (and subsequent cars)...   Mar 12 2012, 09:08 AM
euro911   It's obvious there's a valid appreciation ...   Mar 12 2012, 11:15 AM
Scott S   "Few, if any, aspired to a 914. If you lusted...   Mar 12 2012, 11:33 AM
larryM   Great discussion! - I agree with the comment...   Mar 13 2012, 12:29 AM
porschefile2010   Nice to see a very clean 74' 1.8 for sale over...   Mar 12 2012, 01:10 PM
mepstein   Many are worth more in parts than trying to restor...   Mar 12 2012, 01:13 PM
carr914   The Next Question ( while somewhat related) is a w...   Mar 12 2012, 05:49 PM
DBCooper   That's a good point. If 914's appreciate ...   Mar 12 2012, 06:28 PM
Scott S   "... at what point would we have "jumped...   Mar 12 2012, 09:59 PM
Woody   I happen to work at one of those dealerships that ...   Mar 13 2012, 06:30 AM
SchwarzHorse   A current market guage: Black original '73 wi...   Mar 13 2012, 08:31 AM
billh1963   A current market guage: Black original '73 w...   Mar 13 2012, 09:34 AM
Sea Dragon 914   I've been driving 914's for almost 30 year...   Mar 13 2012, 09:36 AM
avidfanjpl   There are a lot of very valid points here. I think...   Mar 13 2012, 10:37 AM
billh1963   In the end, the biggest winners will be those who ...   Mar 13 2012, 04:39 PM
struckn   Reality check! ....when you bought yours, if ...   Mar 13 2012, 07:29 PM
larryM   check this op-ed by Martin Swig Collector cars a...   Apr 5 2012, 11:36 AM
poorsche914   I find it interesting that he actually mentioned t...   Apr 5 2012, 11:58 AM
Scott S   And now that we have some money, we’re only too...   Apr 5 2012, 12:26 PM
Dustin   I remember the first time I ever saw one of these ...   Apr 5 2012, 01:09 PM
65tuxedo   When I decided that I wanted a 914, I did not find...   Apr 5 2012, 01:27 PM
mepstein   "If we control 99% of the cars as suggested, ...   Apr 5 2012, 01:35 PM
gothspeed   "If we control 99% of the cars as suggested,...   Apr 5 2012, 04:45 PM
scotty b   "If we control 99% of the cars as suggested,...   Apr 6 2012, 12:07 AM
Laura-4-Lyfe   Summer, 1998 I am 19 and I am bored with my 280z....   Apr 5 2012, 07:44 PM
65tuxedo   The "scheme" wouldn't affect us. It ...   Apr 5 2012, 10:19 PM
larryM   . yep - hope and thrill spring eternal; i migrate...   Apr 5 2012, 11:21 PM
unpolire   yep - hope and thrill spring eternal; i have dr...   Apr 6 2012, 03:58 AM
rwilner   Here's why I bought a 914-- I've always o...   Apr 6 2012, 07:17 AM
carr914   Summer, 1998 I am 19 and I am bored with my 280z...   Apr 6 2012, 09:01 AM
Laura-4-Lyfe   :wttc: AND :ttiwwp: Thanks for the welcome...   Apr 6 2012, 04:02 PM
mepstein   The fours are really a gateway drug to the six...   Apr 6 2012, 05:25 PM
sbsix   Pat, you hit the nail on the head. I first heard t...   Apr 6 2012, 05:37 PM
74porsche914   Wow! Haven't looked at this thread I start...   Apr 6 2012, 06:39 PM
Pat Garvey   I haven't had a rant in a while...... Why are...   Apr 6 2012, 07:08 PM
unpolire   "Why are 914 values lower than they should b...   Apr 6 2012, 10:06 PM
carr914   Some good points Pat, but a argument could be made...   Apr 7 2012, 07:28 AM
unpolire   Some good points Pat, but a argument could be mad...   Apr 7 2012, 11:27 AM
DBCooper   We are not all doctors in formed investment pools:...   Apr 7 2012, 11:52 AM
DBCooper   Pat, why so dour? Can I make an observation? You...   Apr 7 2012, 09:20 AM
J P Stein   The short version is that when they were new....al...   Apr 7 2012, 10:00 AM
carr914   George did you go to the Quaker Steak & Lube? ...   Apr 7 2012, 02:55 PM
Dustin   The shorter the observer the better these cars loo...   Apr 7 2012, 03:19 PM
Niche   As a new 914 owner, I found this thread interestin...   Mar 20 2013, 11:51 AM
rmital   As a new 914 owner, I found this thread interesti...   Mar 20 2013, 12:11 PM
billh1963   As a new 914 owner, I found this thread interesti...   Mar 20 2013, 12:22 PM
jhora   here you go....prices are up for nice ones http:/...   Mar 20 2013, 01:36 PM
green914   I go to a lot of the car shows in the Reno and Car...   Mar 20 2013, 02:31 PM


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