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> broken exhaust stud update, where do I buy a stepped exhaust stud ?
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post May 15 2012, 10:29 AM
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I'm trying to change out a snapped off 4cylinder exhaust stud
its snapped off pretty short... between the head and the push rod tubes... nothing sticking out.

I can only get one nut on, not two

I've tried heat, pliers, etc...
I have a set of metric stud extractors.. but they are too big of diameter to fit on the stud. (the stud is pretty close to the side of the head)

I'm going to try and borrow a welder tonight and weld a nut on
does anyone know of any other trick or tool that would work in such a tight location?


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QUOTE(brant @ May 15 2012, 08:29 AM) *

I'm trying to change out a snapped off 4cylinder exhaust stud
its snapped off pretty short... between the head and the push rod tubes... nothing sticking out.

I can only get one nut on, not two

I've tried heat, pliers, etc...
I have a set of metric stud extractors.. but they are too big of diameter to fit on the stud. (the stud is pretty close to the side of the head)

I'm going to try and borrow a welder tonight and weld a nut on
does anyone know of any other trick or tool that would work in such a tight location?


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You are fighting electrolytic bonding between the steel stud and the aluminum head. If it is bad, and sounds like it is, the best weapon is heat. Problem is it gets pretty scary. The old guys who say to get out the acetylene and heat the nut or bolt to glowing red know what they are talking about. BUT with gas and oil it is DANGEROUS. One good thing is you can work up to it by heating to the limit of your comfort zone and then trying the stud - just don't break it. If it seems like it won't move, try more heat. Also after heating, spraying with penetrating oil works well because it soaks into the hot joint better. Again DISCRETION, because what works is also at the oil flash point. An advantage is that the aluminum carries heat very fast so it is fairly hard to damage the aluminum by heating the stud. There are electric stud heaters too, but most people can't afford them.

Welding blankets from harbor Freight, a full bucket of water in case your hand gets hot, and fire extinguishers.

If all this sounds like pyromania, it isn't meant to be, but it has worked for me.
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[quote name='worn' date='May 15 2012, 09:54 AM' post='1675890']
[quote name='brant' post='1675822' date='May 15 2012, 08:29 AM']
I'm trying to change out a snapped off 4cylinder exhaust stud
its snapped off pretty short... between the head and the push rod tubes... nothing sticking out.

I can only get one nut on, not two

I've tried heat, pliers, etc...
I have a set of metric stud extractors.. but they are too big of diameter to fit on the stud. (the stud is pretty close to the side of the head)

I'm going to try and borrow a welder tonight and weld a nut on
does anyone know of any other trick or tool that would work in such a tight location?


brant
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In re reading it sounds like your problem is more about grabbing the stud. I had thought at first it was an issue of it breaking off during turning so it was stuck on.

This sounds stupid, but I would have thought that a big - @ss vise grip would lock on with a torque powerful enough to break the stud. Guess not. Your stud extractor if cam action might work if you added a small bolt parallel to the stud to take up space. Good luck. I have a small jar that I put the victory extractions in - drilled out, or some other heroics. Not that full I am afraid, but fond memories to build courage.
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brant   broken exhaust stud update   May 15 2012, 10:29 AM
stugray   Brant, I have a MIG welder and a set of bolt extr...   May 15 2012, 10:36 AM
brant   it is on the engine but your close enough, I could...   May 15 2012, 10:59 AM
worn   I'm trying to change out a snapped off 4cylin...   May 15 2012, 11:54 AM
worn   [quote name='brant' post='1675822...   May 15 2012, 12:00 PM
KaptKaos   I used something like this when I had a similar is...   May 15 2012, 12:08 PM
r_towle   Weld the nut on and be prepared to stick a socket ...   May 15 2012, 06:08 PM
AZ914   SORRY!   May 15 2012, 07:31 PM
brant   Jason.. don't be I'm going to take a crac...   May 15 2012, 10:26 PM
TROJANMAN   I think GINT wrote a whole thread about this once....   May 15 2012, 10:38 PM
infraredcalvin   How about this,I used this to remove all but one s...   May 15 2012, 10:47 PM
rdauenhauer   This can help in the extream case where drilling i...   May 16 2012, 09:57 AM
stugray   Another thing I just remembered. I have a resista...   May 17 2012, 09:30 AM
bandjoey   Pocket torch and JB weld the nut on. Wack it with ...   May 17 2012, 11:38 AM
brant   hey thanks guys! I got it out last night with ...   May 24 2012, 02:47 PM
MLedesma   Brant, I got some a while ago from belmetric.com...   May 24 2012, 04:25 PM
andys   Try your local drit bike shop. Many two-strokes us...   May 24 2012, 04:48 PM
aharder   Brant, I got some a while ago from belmetric.co...   May 24 2012, 05:03 PM
underthetire   Mcmaster car   May 24 2012, 06:28 PM
stugray   Brant, I have a Helicoil M10x1.5 metric thread re...   May 24 2012, 10:27 PM
avidfanjpl   I actually have 4 - 9MM and 4 - 10MM studs for a ...   May 24 2012, 11:51 PM
Rand   My local VW shop had them in stock when I needed o...   May 25 2012, 01:26 AM
brant   Hey everyone these are great suggestions. someone...   May 25 2012, 08:26 AM
brant   just an update for any future soul searching this ...   May 25 2012, 02:10 PM
stugray   That is probably why I have the 10mm helicoil ki...   May 26 2012, 10:40 AM


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