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| nsr-jamie |
Nov 5 2012, 08:31 AM
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914 guy in Japan ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,182 Joined: 7-November 07 From: Nagoya, Japan Member No.: 8,305 Region Association: None |
Hi, over here in Japan where it is much hotter and humid than the rest of most parts of the world. My car is a 1972 914-4 model that has been tuned up a bit with 103mm p/c, high can and big valve heads (48x38) and twin 40mm drla Dellorto carbs....in the summer time the car seems to run badly and when I stop the car for even a short time to run into the 7-11 and try to restart the 914 it sometimes is quite difficult to get it running again. I talked with my mechanic friend at my local air cooled VW shop here and he told me I was experiencing carburetor percolation which seems to be common on these cars or air cooled engines that are running carbs like mine. I did a bit of research and found nothing here on this site but a little bit on google....not really sure what carburetor percolation is but kind of sounds like the carbs are over heating from the engine heat. Are others experiencing this problem too and if so what are you doing to try to fix it. My shop mentioned special gaskets or spacers to go in between the carbs and manifolds to cure this problem...it seems to occur more here on this side of the planet cause of the humid and hotter weather compared to say back home in the US or Europe. I checked on the CB Performance site and could not find spacers.....any body have any input to add? Thanks and cheers
Jamie in Japan |
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| nathansnathan |
Nov 12 2012, 08:51 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,052 Joined: 31-May 10 From: Laguna Beach, CA Member No.: 11,782 Region Association: None |
The Phenolic FI spacers are in the 1.8/ 2.0 elring gasket sets. It's a fun project to make your own, but I can't see going to great lengths to make these.
About the Dellorto whistle, I was saying I think it is a myth, as my Dells only make that noise when they aren't sealing right. CB doesn't make them anymore, like was said. I speculate that those gaskets were a cover up - the literature wasn't going to say, "now buy our gaskets which compensate for how badly machined our manifolds are", so they made up a story about the gaps that had to be filled by a proprietary gasket, when it is just the thickness of the gasket that makes the difference. -just speculating here as I have not tried the special gaskets. My Dells son't whistle, though, without them. It could be there is some confusion between "Dellorto whistle" and "Dellorto Howl". Mine do howl impressively. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
nsr-jamie What is carburetor percolation... Nov 5 2012, 08:31 AM
McMark When the engine is running you have air flow and f... Nov 5 2012, 08:43 AM
sean_v8_914 the plastic spacers help. Porsche used a return li... Nov 5 2012, 08:58 AM
r_towle spacers are the key.
rich Nov 5 2012, 10:59 AM
GeorgeRud You can also put a switch in the dash that let... Nov 5 2012, 04:22 PM
mrbubblehead hi jamie, i had a similar problem. on super hot da... Nov 5 2012, 06:27 PM
nsr-jamie Hello everyone and thank you for the excellent rep... Nov 6 2012, 09:29 AM
'73-914kid Jamie, what linkage are you running? I installed t... Nov 6 2012, 10:05 AM
nsr-jamie
Jamie, what linkage are you running? I installed ... Nov 9 2012, 09:30 AM
john rogers Do you have all the sheet metal AND the rubber sea... Nov 6 2012, 12:10 PM
charliew The spacers I have seen have a mesh looking reinfo... Nov 6 2012, 07:43 PM
DBCooper I don't think you want Bakelite, it cracks rea... Nov 6 2012, 09:42 PM
nsr-jamie Seems like lots of guys in Japan are using bakelig... Nov 7 2012, 05:29 AM
DBCooper
Seems like lots of guys in Japan are using bakeli... Nov 7 2012, 07:28 PM
nathansnathan
Seems like lots of guys in Japan are using bakel... Nov 8 2012, 03:06 PM
URY914 Jamie,
I see a group buy in your future. :D
Pi... Nov 7 2012, 07:29 AM
Woody
Jamie,
I see a group buy in your future. :D
P... Nov 7 2012, 06:10 PM
larryM go check the PMO site for info
- in addition to ... Nov 8 2012, 08:39 PM
rhodyguy are the spacers between the idfs and intakes cut d... Nov 9 2012, 09:29 AM
nsr-jamie Ok, here are some pictures as promised. I finished... Nov 9 2012, 09:38 AM
DBCooper
Another one but close up. Is this really bakelit... Nov 9 2012, 10:51 AM

nsr-jamie
Another one but close up. Is this really bakeli... Nov 10 2012, 09:10 AM
SirAndy What about the bottom piece that goes between the ... Nov 12 2012, 02:11 PM
nsr-jamie Here is the material after I roughly cut it out on... Nov 9 2012, 09:46 AM
nsr-jamie a picture of before and after, sorry picture turne... Nov 9 2012, 09:51 AM
nathansnathan Like I said they are the same, like kleenex and ti... Nov 9 2012, 10:02 AM
DBCooper Hmmm.... not at CB any more but found them on John... Nov 10 2012, 09:46 AM
nsr-jamie Thanks for the links, checked them out and they we... Nov 11 2012, 09:28 AM
URY914 Any chance you sending me some of the scrap materi... Nov 11 2012, 12:05 PM
nsr-jamie
Any chance you sending me some of the scrap mater... Nov 11 2012, 09:35 PM
URY914 Thanks Jamie. I looked at the link and they only s... Nov 12 2012, 05:37 AM
wndsrfr
Thanks Jamie. I looked at the link and they only ... Nov 12 2012, 07:09 AM
DBCooper Or ask that industrial plastics supplier for a 12x... Nov 12 2012, 07:15 AM
ConeDodger
The Phenolic FI spacers are in the 1.8/ 2.0 elrin... Nov 12 2012, 09:49 AM
nathansnathan
[quote name='nathansnathan' post='1766738' date='... Nov 13 2012, 01:06 PM
McMark But you can buy them pre-fabbed on eBay... :confus... Nov 12 2012, 09:40 AM
mrbubblehead
But you can buy them pre-fabbed on eBay... :confu... Nov 12 2012, 03:11 PM
McMark Rob's right. Dellorto whistle is a real thing... Nov 12 2012, 09:50 AM
URY914 I'll look for them on ebay Nov 12 2012, 03:30 PM
URY914 Found them.....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Weber-44... Nov 12 2012, 03:39 PM
mrbubblehead
Found them.....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Weber-4... Nov 12 2012, 03:41 PM
URY914 Also in 1/2" thick.
http://www.ebay.com/itm... Nov 12 2012, 03:42 PM
mrbubblehead
Also in 1/2" thick.
http://www.ebay.com/it... Nov 12 2012, 03:43 PM
DBCooper The only reason we use the phenolic spacers is bec... Nov 12 2012, 05:11 PM
nsr-jamie Complete!! Total cost = zero, machining ti... Nov 14 2012, 09:40 PM![]() ![]() |
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