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> conversion to 911 underbody front sway bar, what parts do I need
shuie
post Jan 14 2013, 09:31 AM
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I want to install a later style 911 sway bar on my '71 914. I am not going to 5 lug and I do not want to get into changing the struts on my '71 or swapping an entire 911 front suspension onto the car. I just want to use the later 911 under the body sway bar with the early 914 struts & non vented brakes.

I know I need the tabs for the A-arms. Can I use the 911 A-arms and keep my early struts? Will the early 914 balljoints work in the 911 A-arms? Do I need the aluminum cross member from the 911?

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post Jan 14 2013, 09:50 AM
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The tabs on the A arms for the under-body bar are quite different from those for the through-body bar. Or at least in a different location. So you'll either need to fab and weld on the 911-style tabs, or use 911 A arms. I believe you'll need to switch to 911 torsion bars if you go with 911 A arms--obviously with the 911 height adjuster as well.

I don't think you need the 911 crossmember, I think (not sure!) that the brackets for the under-body bar bolt up to the mounting holes for the crossmember, not to the crossmember itself.


Why are you changing over? The under-body style has worse geometry, is kind of a pain to install and remove, cannot be made adjustable, and requires a bunch of extra work as you can see.

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post Jan 14 2013, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE(Dave_Darling @ Jan 14 2013, 09:50 AM) *


Why are you changing over?



Im just looking for a reasonably cheap upgrade to my current sway bar. see below... I mean, this was a good effort by the PO, but (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

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From the pictures I can see in the other threads I do not think I need the 911 cross member.

It wouldn't make a difference to me if I used 911 t-bars, but I really don't want to change my struts. I've already got a really nice set of 320i calipers from PMB and a good set of slotted and cryo'ed non-vented rotors that are not going to work if I change struts. Do you know if I can keep the '71 struts with the 911 A-arms?

This is going to be a light weight street car. I really don't want to drop $400-$600 on a heavy duty adjustable sway bar for this car. I figured I could go with the later 911 style bar for half (or less) of that cost. I won't have to weld in the reenforcement plates and it may give me a little more room under the tank for a possible fuel pump relocation.
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shuie   conversion to 911 underbody front sway bar   Jan 14 2013, 09:31 AM
Dave_Darling   The tabs on the A arms for the under-body bar are ...   Jan 14 2013, 09:50 AM
shuie   Why are you changing over? Im just looking ...   Jan 14 2013, 10:24 AM
ruby914   Why are you changing over? Im just looking...   Jan 14 2013, 10:48 AM
jimkelly   dave - as usual - you make some good points here -...   Jan 14 2013, 06:24 PM
jcd914   The brackets/bushing mounts for the under body bar...   Jan 14 2013, 10:55 AM
carr914   I have the Whole Set-up (A Arms, Alum Crossmember,...   Jan 14 2013, 06:45 PM
Jgilliam914   My72 had a under body sway bar when I purchased it...   Jan 14 2013, 07:03 PM
falconfp2001   I want to install a later style 911 sway bar on m...   Jan 14 2013, 10:58 PM
brant   I want to install a later style 911 sway bar on ...   Jan 15 2013, 12:13 AM
falconfp2001   [quote name='falconfp2001' post='1802610' date='J...   Jan 16 2013, 12:44 AM
SLITS   In all the cars I've played with, I have never...   Jan 16 2013, 08:16 AM
MDG   I've built a couple of cars with the under b...   Jan 16 2013, 08:30 AM
Racer Chris   The only drawback is that the rack/master cylind...   Jan 16 2013, 08:53 AM
Spoke   I did the 911 A-arms, t-bars, aluminum crossmember...   Jan 16 2013, 09:36 AM
Eric_Shea   I'd find a way to fix that through body set up...   Jan 16 2013, 11:03 PM
Eric_Shea   :agree: 200%   Jan 16 2013, 11:04 PM
dfelz   Soooo, I just noticed that one of the random items...   Feb 9 2013, 03:53 AM
Spoke   My questions is, can i still use my stock 914 a-a...   Feb 9 2013, 06:26 AM
scotty b   Just run both, then everyone will think you know s...   Feb 9 2013, 07:39 AM
Racer Chris   Just run both, then everyone will think you know ...   Feb 9 2013, 08:36 AM
tscrihfield   [quote name='scotty b' post='1817426' date='Feb 9...   Feb 9 2013, 08:49 AM
dfelz   Just run both, then everyone will think you know ...   Feb 9 2013, 01:37 PM
larryM   i did this about 15 yrs ago - same reason - oem...   Feb 9 2013, 11:11 PM
scotty b   i did this about 15 yrs ago - same reason - oe...   Feb 10 2013, 10:26 AM
dfelz   thanks Larry. I contacted bruce earlier today abou...   Feb 10 2013, 01:14 AM
Eric_Shea   :agree: I'd love to see details on the origina...   Feb 10 2013, 10:32 AM


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