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> Is it possible to drop a 1.7 using a 4 post lift?
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post Feb 4 2013, 08:02 PM
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I've been reading in anticipation of starting my restoration this year. I've seen posts where some have used a two post lift to remove their engines. I'm wondering if it's possible to remove the engine using a 4 post lift with 32" of clearance between the rails. My 914 is in storage a couple of hours away so I can't measure the width of the engine and tins etc. I'm guessing that 32" is not enough space, but am wondering if there is some (reasonably easy) way that it can be done.
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KaptKaos
post Feb 5 2013, 04:22 PM
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Why do I have visions of Karl's Lotus Elise flashing in my mind right now??

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I am not a fan of this plan. I think the car will fall off of the back of the ramp because most of the weight will be hanging off the rear.

I still don't get the logistics of the runways being so close. A picture would help a lot.
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QUOTE(KaptKaos @ Feb 5 2013, 02:22 PM) *
Why do I have visions of Karl's Lotus Elise flashing in my mind right now??

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I am not a fan of this plan. I think the car will fall off of the back of the ramp because most of the weight will be hanging off the rear.

I still don't get the logistics of the runways being so close. A picture would help a lot.
When you jack stand a 914 (with the complete drive train installed) under the front and rear donuts, have you ever seen one fall (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

I'm surmising that the Elise was probably not positioned on the two-post lift correctly and when they removed some weight (front wheels), it upset the balance.

How many times have we had 914s up on the two-post lifts at shop class? ... and we've never had a mishap occur ... even when removing both front wheels and rotors to do a brake job.

If there's concern about weight distribution and upsetting the balance for the short duration the car would be in that position, the front wheels or A-arms can be secured to the runways with a good set of ratchet straps.

Is your lift bolted to the floor, Doug?
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post Feb 6 2013, 09:46 AM
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How many times have we had 914s up on the two-post lifts at shop class? ... and we've never had a mishap occur ... even when removing both front wheels and rotors to do a brake job.

If there's concern about weight distribution and upsetting the balance for the short duration the car would be in that position, the front wheels or A-arms can be secured to the runways with a good set of ratchet straps.

Is your lift bolted to the floor, Doug?


Good point Mark. Assuming that the lift holds up the chassis level at all four donuts, then you are correct.

However, if the car is on the front wheels and there is a drop from the front to the rear because the rear is resting on a 4x4, then your idea to secure the front with some ratcheting tie downs would really help. Using a 4x4 has the car already resting at a downward angle.

Also, a bolted down lift would be good too.
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doug_b_928   Is it possible to drop a 1.7 using a 4 post lift?   Feb 4 2013, 08:02 PM
914Sixer   Right of the top of my head I would say no with ou...   Feb 4 2013, 08:14 PM
worn   I've been reading in anticipation of starting...   Feb 4 2013, 09:16 PM
somd914   Agree that the tin is 36 inches, best I can measur...   Feb 4 2013, 09:48 PM
914itis   Agree that the tin is 36 inches, best I can measu...   Feb 4 2013, 09:59 PM
doug_b_928   how wide are Harold's rear rims though? he...   Feb 4 2013, 10:27 PM
euro911   Danmar D7000 (or D7) 4-post lift Width Between Ru...   Feb 4 2013, 11:31 PM
KaptKaos   How wide are the runways if there is only 32...   Feb 5 2013, 12:04 AM
Gint   Doug, My four post isn't wide enough to drop ...   Feb 5 2013, 04:48 AM
brant   Doug, My four post isn't wide enough to drop...   Feb 5 2013, 09:30 AM
Gint   Yup, did it that way once myself. Pretty much exa...   Feb 7 2013, 11:01 PM
JmuRiz   I can drop my engine with my 4-post lift, but I go...   Feb 5 2013, 09:42 AM
doug_b_928   I have the Direct Lift PP8S. Dimensions are below...   Feb 5 2013, 09:51 AM
JmuRiz   Gotcha, I think that's like the narrow side of...   Feb 5 2013, 10:51 AM
mskala   I had a thread about this some time ago. I, too, ...   Feb 5 2013, 11:17 AM
doug_b_928   I don't think my lift is width adjustable. Tu...   Feb 5 2013, 01:22 PM
euro911   If you don't have the clearance between the ru...   Feb 5 2013, 03:29 PM
doug_b_928   If you don't have the clearance between the r...   Feb 5 2013, 03:56 PM
euro911   This is a very interesting idea. I have a jack th...   Feb 6 2013, 02:56 AM
KaptKaos   Why do I have visions of Karl's Lotus Elise fl...   Feb 5 2013, 04:22 PM
euro911   Why do I have visions of Karl's Lotus Elise fl...   Feb 6 2013, 03:15 AM
KaptKaos   How many times have we had 914s up on the two-po...   Feb 6 2013, 09:46 AM
stugray   If you had a nice pick point above the engine bay ...   Feb 5 2013, 04:47 PM
doug_b_928   That picture of the Elise is frightening. I jus...   Feb 5 2013, 05:16 PM
doug_b_928   Good point. I was also thinking about 911s: Is t...   Feb 6 2013, 08:33 AM
doug_b_928   But what if, instead of a 2x4, the car was on a sc...   Feb 6 2013, 09:52 AM
gandalf_025   I've pulled engines out of 911's and 914-6...   Feb 6 2013, 10:43 AM
euro911   On a stock 914, the lowest point of the chassis sh...   Feb 6 2013, 03:17 PM
KaptKaos   On a stock 914, the lowest point of the chassis s...   Feb 6 2013, 03:57 PM
doug_b_928   So, then, if you had two scissor jacks such that t...   Feb 6 2013, 04:54 PM
euro911   Film at eleven ...   Feb 6 2013, 05:52 PM
euro911   RE: Is it possible to drop a 1.7 using a 4 post lift?   Feb 7 2013, 12:31 AM
KaptKaos   very cool :trophy: Jeremy doesn't weigh as mu...   Feb 7 2013, 08:00 AM
euro911   very cool :trophy: Jeremy doesn't weigh as m...   Feb 7 2013, 04:12 PM
doug_b_928   Dude, awesome demonstration!!! From t...   Feb 7 2013, 08:25 AM
euro911   Dude, awesome demonstration!!! From t...   Feb 7 2013, 04:24 PM
JmuRiz   Fantastic! Guess I didn't need to get the...   Feb 7 2013, 09:04 AM
doug_b_928   Having never pulled an engine, this method appears...   Feb 7 2013, 08:33 PM
euro911   I'll let you know when I drop the drive train ...   Feb 7 2013, 11:10 PM
Andyrew   I use a 2 post almost weekly... (not on the 914 we...   Feb 8 2013, 12:47 AM
Type 47   I dropped mine out on my 4 post. http://www.914wor...   Feb 8 2013, 12:23 PM
doug_b_928   What is the measurement of open space between the ...   Feb 8 2013, 01:04 PM


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