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| grogthegreat |
Feb 4 2013, 11:11 PM
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Newbie ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5 Joined: 17-February 12 From: SanDiego, CA Member No.: 14,139 Region Association: None |
Anyone have the two plastic fuel lines from the engine compartment?
One of mine on my 74 got partially melted through because it was touching the main battery cable when it shorted to the underside of the trunk near the starter! It feels like it it about to burst and I don't want to waste any expensive fuel! Let me know how much you want with shipping to Escondido CA (92026) Thanks! -Grog |
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| JeffBowlsby |
Feb 6 2013, 05:51 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses & Beekeeper ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,146 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None
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Tough crowd! Porsche designed these cars with non-metallic fuel lines - when they easily could have provided metal lines if they had thought it was important. "I'll say it another way" - an alternate material or design does not always mean 'improved' - thats been proven time and time again on this board. Maybe race cars use stainless, but race cars have different requirements and more rigorous inspections than street cars.
Betcha the vast majority of all stock fuel injected 914s on the road today are still using the original stock non-stainless fuel lines. Thats not a good thing because they are old and can be fragile, and I agree, they should be replaced if questionable - but my point is that stainless is not the only alternative and may have its own concerns. In its 7 year production run Porsche could have switched them to metal or some other product but they did not. Not even a recall or tech bulletin. The HO recall issued 6 months after the last 914 was built, did not change them. I trust the quality of Tangerine's products implicitly, but what are the details of those lines and similar products on the market by others so we can evaluate them? What grade of stainless is used? - some grades can corrode. What effect does battery acid have on them? Are they seamless or seamed tubing? If seamed, they can can open up, the seam is a weak point. What is the pressure rating of this material? Do these work harden causing weakness either during fabrication or while inservice from vibration? Is metal better than non-metallic? Metal is a good conductor for engine bay heat and may contribute to vapor lock. Does condensation occur in cold climates through the metal diluting the fuel with condensate moisture? Does anyone know? Maybe better would be insulated lines? If we don't know the answer to these, then 'improved' may not be 'better'. I will stick with the factory stock material unless and until its proven that an alternative is better and that stock is defective. Touche... ![]() Attached image(s)
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grogthegreat WTB: Plastic fuel lines from engine compartment Feb 4 2013, 11:11 PM
euro911 Perfect time to change them both out to stainless ... Feb 4 2013, 11:34 PM
grogthegreat I considered it but everything else about the car ... Feb 4 2013, 11:41 PM
Rockaria
I considered it but everything else about the car... Feb 5 2013, 09:38 AM
JawjaPorsche If you don't replace those lines, you will hav... Feb 5 2013, 06:17 AM
pilothyer
If you don't replace those lines, you will ha... Feb 5 2013, 06:44 AM
grogthegreat
If you don't replace those lines, you will ha... Feb 5 2013, 11:08 AM
Tom_T
If you don't replace those lines, you will h... Feb 5 2013, 06:39 PM
walterolin New stainless steel. The OEM plastic lines, all o... Feb 5 2013, 08:26 AM
Jeff Bowlsby I prefer the orignal non-metallic tubing. No real... Feb 5 2013, 09:51 AM
grogthegreat I see your point. I plan on replacing the lines in... Feb 5 2013, 06:51 PM
Kraftwerk I will say it another way: "stock "doesn... Feb 6 2013, 02:38 PM
yeahmag Crazy... That looks like PEX tubing.
Feb 6 2013, 06:58 PM
euro911 Were the fuel lines originally white and turned br... Feb 6 2013, 06:09 PM
Jeff Bowlsby
Were the fuel lines originally white and turned b... Feb 6 2013, 08:13 PM
mtndawg This comparison of plastic and metal has me thinki... Feb 6 2013, 06:19 PM
euro911 Well, to settle this whole issue of which is bette... Feb 6 2013, 07:07 PM
tod914 pm sent Jeff. Interested in a set. Feb 6 2013, 08:53 PM
Tom Jeff,
Good points! I always wondered why Po... Feb 7 2013, 09:12 AM
John Jentz
Jeff,
Good points! I always wondered why P... Feb 7 2013, 10:12 AM
gcrotvik Hi Jeff,
I will take a set also. PM sent.
Greg Feb 7 2013, 09:46 AM
Jeff Bowlsby Hey John, to be clear, we are talking about the en... Feb 7 2013, 10:32 AM
John Jentz
Hey John, to be clear, we are talking about the e... Feb 8 2013, 02:14 PM
euro911 The plastic line we pulled out of my '75 were ... Feb 7 2013, 08:21 PM
Chris H. In '75-'76 the tubing was definitely black... Feb 8 2013, 07:03 AM
gcrotvik Hey Jeff,
I just looked at the pictures of my 75 ... Feb 8 2013, 08:17 AM
Tom Jeff,
Here are pics of mine. As far as I can se... Feb 8 2013, 08:20 AM
Racer Chris The material I use is T304 seamed tubing.
Seamles... Feb 8 2013, 08:37 AM
grogthegreat Wow. Look at what happened to my little WTB thread... Feb 8 2013, 10:52 PM
JawjaPorsche Just Wondering: Would it be possible to attach th... Feb 9 2013, 07:13 AM
914Eric
Just Wondering: Would it be possible to attach t... Feb 9 2013, 11:59 AM
JawjaPorsche Try this link" http://www.914world.com/specs... Feb 9 2013, 12:18 PM
wingnut86 Awe Hell, plastic is fine.
In fact the "Hell... Feb 10 2013, 02:24 PM
tumamilhem Actually Jeff, it seems there was a recall on the ... Feb 11 2013, 08:34 PM
euro911 Kind of like underwear?
:lol: Feb 11 2013, 10:58 PM
tumamilhem Haha good one :) Feb 11 2013, 11:23 PM![]() ![]() |
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