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lagunero
post Jun 25 2004, 12:59 PM
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I like the Speed or Irwindale. Of course San Diego is nicer, has beaches, TJ, AXing and is 2 hrs from LA.
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post Jun 26 2004, 08:23 AM
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I loved WCC but felt there was too much non recreational driving between the venues. Trying to get 50+ vehicles moving in a coordinated fashion is scary. Even the twisty tour to Carmel varied from stop and go to street race.

Meals were the same way. 20+ people can't just show up at Denny's, much less a dinner place without some advance planning.

Location depends very much on time of year here. Mid summer is best for family vacation reasons, but that leaves us at the beach when rates are their highest.

Drew, Mike, and other you dyed in the wool Porsche enthusiasts. Missing WCC was a mistake. It was a blast. The AutoX and Laguna Seca were great, but involved lots of sitting and waiting.. OK for the car nuts but annoying to many. Candlestick was cold, winds varied between 20-60mph with shit (literally) flying all over the place.

Seat time is good. The best is POC's Streets of Willow driver ed and short track series. Competent instructors (Drew) really teach vehicle dynamics and will make anyone a better driver. Would love to link to that, or even try renting the track for a non weekend day. The configuration is very safe and well suited for 914's. The straight is only about 1000 ft long and slightly uphill, so no big speeds.

But that is a harsh environment for spectators, and not much of interest for miles around. So building WCC around that or most other track events is spooky.

The part I liked best about WCC was schmoozing in the hotel lobby deciding where to go next. And we usually walked! The Chinese restaurant/Coldstone evening was fun. So was sitting down with Alison for a quiet dinner and discussion of life as we know it.

How about more of a destination resort area, preferably out in the country close to nice roads with little traffic. We could 'take over' the joint and it's facilities. This would appeal to people who did not attend WCC because their car was not ready or track only. For road tours, I loaned my car out to Scott and Jeroen, and I'm sure others would do the same. It would be nice if we could get to a competitive event from there, so all you with local knowledge pitch in with ideas.

And Mike, I don't want to marry PCA Sta Barb but am thinking about going to one of their Camarillo breakfasts so see what's up? Otto says he has connections @ Ventura fairgrounds to hold a p'lot autox there.

It is a big deal to showcase our area and create a package that is easy to sell to spouses and kids. A weekend in Fontana is not the way to do it. The Ventura to Morrow Bay area, with it's beaches and twisty winery tours, gets my vote. But I'll bet there are similar places in other areas that would serve as well.
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lagunero   LOCATION   Jun 25 2004, 12:59 PM
drew365   There's one thing we should keep in mind when ...   Jun 25 2004, 09:26 PM
lagunero   You are right John. I don't really think we ca...   Jun 25 2004, 11:53 PM
Howard   I loved WCC but felt there was too much non recrea...   Jun 26 2004, 08:23 AM
seanery   I contacted the park in ventura- fairgrounds I thi...   Jun 26 2004, 09:34 AM
skline   Well, its not the areas you mentioned, but out her...   Jun 26 2004, 10:39 AM
seanery   it's near john wayne? off the 5?   Jun 26 2004, 10:45 AM
skline   Its across from John Wayne Airport off the 405. It...   Jun 26 2004, 11:08 AM
skline   I just got off the phone with him and he is going ...   Jun 26 2004, 11:39 AM
drew365   Skline; remember that we can't do an AX by our...   Jun 26 2004, 11:59 AM
Toast   Drew, I was just going to mention about the insura...   Jun 26 2004, 12:34 PM
Toast   Ok, with that said, here is what I know about the ...   Jun 26 2004, 12:43 PM
SLITS   As far as the autoX - it seems there are a multipl...   Jun 26 2004, 12:50 PM
Toast   One of the problems I encountered at WCC 04 is tha...   Jun 26 2004, 12:50 PM
Toast   Knots Berry Farm is still gang ridden. Ted went t...   Jun 26 2004, 01:00 PM
lagunero   So is the AX the priority? If so then that will de...   Jun 26 2004, 01:38 PM
skline   Ok, I like the idea of the race track if we can ac...   Jun 26 2004, 04:52 PM
seanery   don't expect to go too fast. I've done par...   Jun 26 2004, 04:57 PM
drew365   Just for information sake, what month of the year ...   Jun 26 2004, 07:57 PM
seanery   Sept 11 & 12, 2004 German Auto Fest   Jun 26 2004, 08:19 PM
rick 918-S   ...   Jun 26 2004, 09:48 PM
Toast   Yea, that is what we are trying to work on right n...   Jun 26 2004, 10:32 PM
seanery   no snow here in September, but you run into the sa...   Jun 27 2004, 06:33 AM
drew365   An event in May or Sept. would mean kids are in sc...   Jun 27 2004, 10:29 AM
SLITS   Scott - As far as the lap speed at FOS on the para...   Jun 27 2004, 11:26 AM
Toast   Howard, I think only two families brought children...   Jun 27 2004, 11:43 AM
SLITS   Ok, in this area I will post the the Riverside PCA...   Jul 16 2004, 06:35 PM
drew365     Jul 16 2004, 08:57 PM
SLITS   Snow Summit is in Big Bear - no parking lot that w...   Jul 16 2004, 09:57 PM
Howard   Gang, let's take this to the '7/10' to...   Jul 16 2004, 11:46 PM


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