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Power from a 914 aircooled, Questions about potential |
Mwood |
Feb 11 2013, 04:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 11-February 13 From: Bay Area Member No.: 15,509 Region Association: Northern California |
Hey, Im new to forums, I apologize if this is in the wrong section.
I have been looking to start a project car since relocating to the bay area forced me to abandon my previous one. i really want to work on some kind of 914 autox/road car/rod project but I am not sure of a few things and wondered if you guys could help me clear this up a bit. I love the looks of the 914, especially ones with the sheridan fiberglass. I love the lines, Size, style, simplicity of the cars. I am also very interested in air cooled engines because i appreciate simple, basic mechanicals and i like the simplicity of carbs and im still pretty green with engine work and complex car mechanics. And something about putting a big american v8 in a car like this irks me a little. Seems a little ham fisted. Is it feasible to get around 250-300 torque/hp from a built aircooled 914 engine with something like dual webers and internal mods? Is that overly excessive for a 914 street/mild track car? I dont really want to spend over 2 to 3 grand modifying the engine. I have read that 1.7L 914 engines accept upgrades better but i feel like the displacement would need to be increased to get that much power. Mechanically i believe i am capable of bolting an engine together (i rebuilt my previous nissan KA engine a couple times) but details like internal engine upgrade specifications and the power gains they yield are foreign to me. My idea is to do some kind of tuned car with 911 suspension and running gear/ built carbed aircooled, seriously lightened interior and maybe a fiberglass widebody if i get that extreme. Please give me some feedback! Thanks! |
Mwood |
Feb 12 2013, 10:53 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 56 Joined: 11-February 13 From: Bay Area Member No.: 15,509 Region Association: Northern California |
hey i just want to thank everyone so much for responding so quickly and in so much detail!
I really appreciate the information you guys have given me, Im taking it into account. maybe ~ 150 hp/tq is more what im looking for. especially as a gateway into the world of racing/914s. a couple more questions then Ill get out of yalls hair I have looked into the subi swap but I would like to go pretty low with the car and i read that you need to convert whatever engine you use to a dry sump for clearance. sounds like a pain... where is the best place to get 911 suspension parts for conversion on 914s. sounds incredibly expensive. also which models should I take from in the 911 range? I would want to do struts/brakes/hubs/whatever in between you need to get those items together. thats best case scenario financially. also, if someone who has too much time on his/her hands could give me a quick sample build of a 1.7/2L with about 125-150 hp/tq like what I would generally need to do to the motor that would be great. thanks! |
Randal |
Feb 12 2013, 01:30 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
hey i just want to thank everyone so much for responding so quickly and in so much detail! I really appreciate the information you guys have given me, Im taking it into account. maybe ~ 150 hp/tq is more what im looking for. especially as a gateway into the world of racing/914s. a couple more questions then Ill get out of yalls hair Building an engine with 150 ft lbs of torque is not a slam dunk. The engine will have to have all the right stuff to make that number, so again, recommmend you find someone that knows, who's been through the process, to help with the configuration, otherwise you will be disappointed. And by the way an engine putting out 150 ft lbs will likely have HP north of 170. IMHO building a torque motor isn't as straight foward as you might think. I have looked into the subi swap but I would like to go pretty low with the car and i read that you need to convert whatever engine you use to a dry sump for clearance. sounds like a pain... where is the best place to get 911 suspension parts for conversion on 914s. sounds incredibly expensive. also which models should I take from in the 911 range? I would want to do struts/brakes/hubs/whatever in between you need to get those items together. thats best case scenario financially. also, if someone who has too much time on his/her hands could give me a quick sample build of a 1.7/2L with about 125-150 hp/tq like what I would generally need to do to the motor that would be great. thanks! |
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