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| Trekkor |
Apr 23 2004, 12:25 PM
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I do things... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I have a line on a 911 engine with Webers in the 245hp range for, say...$1500. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif)
I don't have any of the details on displacement, CR, builder, age, blah, blah...yet. Of course, you buy it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif) Question is, What will I pay to finish the install? After exhaust, fuel set-up, adapters,oil tank,etc...Bottom line is? $2000...$3000...$5000...tell me straight up, I'm sitting down! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rocking nana.gif) What are the positives and negatives of doing this? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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| SP9146 |
Jun 26 2004, 11:23 AM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 98 Joined: 13-December 03 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 1,433 |
I'm restoring a factory 6 and have the stock 2.0L out of it now. Car was sitting about 10 years when I bought it. Had the leaves cleaned out of engine bay, new hoses, rebuilt webers, etc. Drove the car two months before beginning the resto.
I also have an '86 3.2L Carrera. I've never driven a 2.0L 4-cyl. 914 just the 2.0L six. I wouldn't say it rocks but it's a very nice engine in such a light car. The exhaust system was bad and so the sound wasn't perfect but still good, like a Porsche flat 6. Compared to the 3.2L the sound is a higher pitched. The sound of the 3.2 is different. Deeper and more of that classic Porsche 911 sound (not sure if engine related or 911 vs. 914 body related). Fuel injection makes it like a 2.0 4-cyl., always fires up. The Webers in the 2.0 are more tempremental when cold. When warm they're fine. The problem with the 2.0 six is that it doesn't make much power. Don't get me wrong the car moves well but you have to really work the gears. The 3.2 feels like a truck motor in comparison, lots more torque. I really wanted to replace the 2.0 with a 3.2 but then figured I'd end up with a $45K 914 worth maybe $25K instead of a $35K 914 worth $25K. I figure a completely stock factory 6 restored well is worth about the same as a converted factory 6. So I'm doing same thing as you putting in the 2.0 seeing if I like and if not upgrading to 3.2. I heard there's not a whole lot you can do to get power up on a 2.0 but I'm going to ask mechanic to do as much as possible without doing a rebuild. Any ideas on easy power upgrades that don't change the character of the engine? I'm going with a 911 exhaust system. If I was in your situation and needing to pay for the conversion on top of the engine I think I'd take a hard look at the 3.2 or Jake's motor. You'll have maybe $5K (?) more in project after selling the 2.0 but a much faster car that's not just "nice" but also rocks. I think your car would be worth much more with a larger than 2.0 engine, probably more than the investment difference. Financially you'd come out ahead. If I imagine that 3.2 out of my Carrera in the 914-6 it just seems like nirvana. Brad makes a great point about the gearing of a stock 914 tranny, seems like it would be too low for a big engine like the 3.2. Pete |
trekkor Shall I say...SIX? Apr 23 2004, 12:25 PM
Jeffs9146 If you decide not to buy it, drop me a note and I ... Apr 23 2004, 12:29 PM
tat2dphreak I dunno... I did a search, but couldn't find i... Apr 23 2004, 12:34 PM
trekkor If I don't buy it, everytime I'm out in p... Apr 23 2004, 12:37 PM
vortrex 245HP? I guess this is a built 3.2L then? seems ... Apr 23 2004, 12:41 PM
trekkor Here's the story.
Friend's grandpa builds ... Apr 23 2004, 12:48 PM
Mueller first I have to say: :bullshit: on the 245hp mot... Apr 23 2004, 12:49 PM
J P Stein Figure 4-5K plus the motor. Apr 23 2004, 12:56 PM
Lawrence A six conversion will cost everything you have, an... Apr 23 2004, 01:05 PM
1973914 Cost for the motor alone:
$1500 - purchase p... Apr 23 2004, 01:10 PM
9146986 <... Apr 23 2004, 01:23 PM
vsg914 Perry, If I was doing a six conversion, I'd ju... Apr 23 2004, 02:25 PM
boxstr I have done the math many times, figure when all i... Apr 23 2004, 07:22 PM
9146986 <... Apr 23 2004, 08:51 PM
9146986
anthony
SpecialK Trade it to Jake for one of his BIG IV's with ... Apr 23 2004, 09:24 PM
john rogers A close estimate when we did the six conversion on... Apr 23 2004, 10:25 PM
klink OK we're in the middle of a conversion now. O... Apr 23 2004, 10:30 PM
Brad Roberts The tank alone is 700$. You'll pay anothe... Apr 23 2004, 11:15 PM
campbellcj Add to the list some kind of external oil cooler (... Apr 23 2004, 11:40 PM
trekkor Excellant advice and thanks for all the details. :... Apr 24 2004, 02:14 PM
J P Stein All right.
DIY, 4-5K which, with some careful sho... Apr 24 2004, 02:41 PM
trekkor O.K.
everyone's been too busy.
This saturday... May 26 2004, 09:00 PM
TBrads914/6 I've been trying to get this 6 conv. done for ... May 27 2004, 07:36 AM
Eric_Shea Fuch the engine numbers... get us that guys phone ... May 27 2004, 07:51 AM
campbellcj LOL...never add up the receipts...and NEVER NEVER ... May 27 2004, 10:00 PM
trekkor O.K. Sorry to be a carrot dangler.
I have the app... May 31 2004, 07:19 PM
trekkor Guys...Really..What would you do? May 31 2004, 09:08 PM
trekkor MMMM :chow: May 31 2004, 09:09 PM
trekkor Webers May 31 2004, 09:10 PM
trekkor engine# 911 670
he says it's a 225hp 3.0...Br... May 31 2004, 09:12 PM
trekkor The price really is $1500.00
He doesn't ... May 31 2004, 09:15 PM
SirAndy <... May 31 2004, 11:44 PM
Dr Evil I'd say "gimme gimme gimme." The hel with the ... May 31 2004, 11:52 PM
Dr Evil Oh ya, and a small part of me hates you. ;) May 31 2004, 11:53 PM
meursault No WAY is that engine a 3.0. That case is an early... May 31 2004, 11:55 PM
1973914 What was this engine running in before? Some sort... Jun 1 2004, 06:47 AM
Chris H. Take it and run my man! That is a helluva dea... Jun 1 2004, 07:04 AM
seanery early aluminum cases are desirable, and if that on... Jun 1 2004, 07:52 AM
tat2dphreak 1500 is a steal... check the compression and see w... Jun 1 2004, 08:51 AM
Lawrence
trekkor Thanks for all the feedback thus far. :clap:
I... Jun 1 2004, 04:47 PM
Eric_Shea Well... I haven't dug into my notes but it sho... Jun 1 2004, 05:12 PM
brant dangerous territory here ... asking what can be do... Jun 1 2004, 05:23 PM
trekkor Bought the motor...I think congratulations are in ... Jun 1 2004, 10:29 PM
Mueller congrats :trophy:
while a mid sized to big bloc... Jun 1 2004, 10:42 PM
Lawrence Congrats! :beer1:
If the motor is basically ... Jun 2 2004, 06:30 AM
seanery Good job Trekkor.
The other stuff adds up $, ... Jun 2 2004, 07:12 AM
theol00 Congratulations!
I am in the process of doing ... Jun 2 2004, 01:29 PM
J P Stein There is a number serise stamped om the top of the... Jun 2 2004, 01:40 PM
trekkor This project is exciting...but.
Is it worth going... Jun 2 2004, 08:16 PM
Duffster Congrats on a smooth deal Trekkor!!! :... Jun 2 2004, 09:58 PM
McMark IMHO, the ONLY real reason to do a six conversion ... Jun 2 2004, 10:35 PM
trekkor Mark, thanks for the advice. I'm kinda torn he... Jun 2 2004, 10:54 PM
SirAndy
seanery Personally, I think it's worth it. I drove an ... Jun 3 2004, 06:35 AM
9146986 I don't know anyone who's properly done a ... Jun 3 2004, 06:45 AM
theol00 :agree:
it seems the majority of 914 owners is s... Jun 3 2004, 09:25 AM
maxwelj As another original-6 owner (who admittedly, has n... Jun 3 2004, 09:26 AM
trekkor I'm sold!
Told you it would be easy!
... Jun 3 2004, 05:28 PM
! A 2.0/6 from a 914 IS a waste of time....IF you ar... Jun 3 2004, 05:32 PM
brant Mike,
what did you do to your S motor to raise i... Jun 4 2004, 10:51 AM
! That's what an "S" motor is rated at.... Jun 4 2004, 11:05 AM
Duffster Z... did you buy your 2.2 in Frankensteen from Sa... Jun 4 2004, 11:22 AM
brant Mike,
is it an aluminum cased or a 69 mag cased ... Jun 4 2004, 12:03 PM
! I bought BOTH motors from Glen Sager.....the 2.0 w... Jun 4 2004, 12:43 PM
Duffster MSD box. The carbs wound up on my 2.7, after a v... Jun 4 2004, 12:54 PM
Duffster the venturis were 30s, I believe... Jun 4 2004, 12:56 PM
brp914 Hey, I realize its probably too late, but dont do ... Jun 4 2004, 05:36 PM
seanery welcome to the club.
Should we just call you Mr. ... Jun 4 2004, 06:19 PM
Lawrence
ArtechnikA <... Jun 5 2004, 03:37 PM
campbellcj Z - I think you'll certainly want a Bosch CDI... Jun 5 2004, 10:41 PM
seanery petronix has a new msd box. Jun 6 2004, 07:33 AM
! <... Jun 18 2004, 11:09 PM
trekkor I believe it would be a 914-6 bonfire...actually :... Jun 18 2004, 11:21 PM
ArtechnikA <... Jun 19 2004, 11:19 PM
J P Stein Stink is gud.
Replay of a vid some of you may hav... Jun 19 2004, 11:38 PM
trekkor Keep us posted on your project , too SP.
Everythi... Jun 26 2004, 02:34 PM
seanery Trekkor, E cams would probably be good for you. Yo... Jun 26 2004, 03:49 PM
9146986 <... Jun 26 2004, 09:09 PM
Lawrence <... Jun 27 2004, 01:19 AM
seanery Rusty, any date on coming home?
I think I'd b... Jun 27 2004, 06:45 AM
anthony Why not a 3 or 3.2L? So what if you have to change... Jun 27 2004, 08:18 AM
Lawrence <... Jun 27 2004, 08:37 AM
ArtechnikA <... Jun 27 2004, 09:06 AM
Brad Roberts When people say: "The small engines are fine" I im... Jun 27 2004, 11:57 AM![]() ![]() |
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