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> Power from a 914 aircooled, Questions about potential
Mwood
post Feb 11 2013, 04:58 PM
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Hey, Im new to forums, I apologize if this is in the wrong section.

I have been looking to start a project car since relocating to the bay area forced me to abandon my previous one. i really want to work on some kind of 914 autox/road car/rod project but I am not sure of a few things and wondered if you guys could help me clear this up a bit.

I love the looks of the 914, especially ones with the sheridan fiberglass. I love the lines,
Size, style, simplicity of the cars. I am also very interested in air cooled engines because i appreciate simple, basic mechanicals and i like the simplicity of carbs and im still pretty green with engine work and complex car mechanics. And something about putting a big american v8 in a car like this irks me a little. Seems a little ham fisted.

Is it feasible to get around 250-300 torque/hp from a built aircooled 914 engine with something like dual webers and internal mods? Is that overly excessive for a 914 street/mild track car? I dont really want to spend over 2 to 3 grand modifying the engine. I have read that 1.7L 914 engines accept upgrades better but i feel like the displacement would need to be increased to get that much power. Mechanically i believe i am capable of bolting an engine together (i rebuilt my previous nissan KA engine a couple times) but details like internal engine upgrade specifications and the power gains they yield are foreign to me.

My idea is to do some kind of tuned car with 911 suspension and running gear/ built carbed aircooled, seriously lightened interior and maybe a fiberglass widebody if i get that extreme.

Please give me some feedback!
Thanks!
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Mwood
post Feb 12 2013, 10:53 AM
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hey i just want to thank everyone so much for responding so quickly and in so much detail!

I really appreciate the information you guys have given me, Im taking it into account.

maybe ~ 150 hp/tq is more what im looking for. especially as a gateway into the world of racing/914s.
a couple more questions then Ill get out of yalls hair

I have looked into the subi swap but I would like to go pretty low with the car and i read that you need to convert whatever engine you use to a dry sump for clearance.
sounds like a pain...

where is the best place to get 911 suspension parts for conversion on 914s. sounds incredibly expensive. also which models should I take from in the 911 range?
I would want to do struts/brakes/hubs/whatever in between you need to get those items together. thats best case scenario financially.

also, if someone who has too much time on his/her hands could give me a quick sample build of a 1.7/2L with about 125-150 hp/tq like what I would generally need to do to the motor that would be great.

thanks!
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post Feb 12 2013, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(Mwood @ Feb 12 2013, 08:53 AM) *
where is the best place to get 911 suspension parts for conversion on 914s.

You got lucky! There are three good places to get parts in the bay area:

- EASY in Emeryville
- Parts Heaven in Hayward
- High Performance House (HPH) in Redwood City

All three are places where Porsche's go to die.

Both Parts Heaven and HPH have a *HUGE* inventory of used parts while EASY is a smaller establishment but generally has more reasonable prices.

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post Feb 12 2013, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 12 2013, 10:50 AM) *

QUOTE(Mwood @ Feb 12 2013, 08:53 AM) *
where is the best place to get 911 suspension parts for conversion on 914s.

You got lucky! There are three good places to get parts in the bay area:

- EASY in Emeryville
- Parts Heaven in Hayward
- High Performance House (HPH) in Redwood City

All three are places where Porsche's go to die.

Both Parts Heaven and HPH have a *HUGE* inventory of used parts while EASY is a smaller establishment but generally has more reasonable prices.

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Thanks! Ill write those down.

Sounds like I need to consult an expert. Or someone who has experience building the 4 engines. Lots of good info here for sure though, keep it coming if you want. Im going to check out the aforementioned 4rum spot right now.

Anybody have suggestions on bay area people/shops who will be able to guide me through the process of figuring out what engine/mods i want?
or where to go for in-person info anyway.
Regardless, im starting with a stock 914 as soon as i get the financial aspect of this deal figured out. Just to drive around and maintain a stock car i expect will provide a wealth of information.

Again, thanks!

People are pretty rad on this forum i love it. Much less flamin than ive seen elsewhere.
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post Feb 12 2013, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(Mwood @ Feb 12 2013, 12:43 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ Feb 12 2013, 10:50 AM) *

QUOTE(Mwood @ Feb 12 2013, 08:53 AM) *
where is the best place to get 911 suspension parts for conversion on 914s.

You got lucky! There are three good places to get parts in the bay area:

- EASY in Emeryville
- Parts Heaven in Hayward
- High Performance House (HPH) in Redwood City

All three are places where Porsche's go to die.

Both Parts Heaven and HPH have a *HUGE* inventory of used parts while EASY is a smaller establishment but generally has more reasonable prices.

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Thanks! Ill write those down.

Sounds like I need to consult an expert. Or someone who has experience building the 4 engines. Lots of good info here for sure though, keep it coming if you want. Im going to check out the aforementioned 4rum spot right now.

Anybody have suggestions on bay area people/shops who will be able to guide me through the process of figuring out what engine/mods i want?
or where to go for in-person info anyway.
Regardless, im starting with a stock 914 as soon as i get the financial aspect of this deal figured out. Just to drive around and maintain a stock car i expect will provide a wealth of information.

Again, thanks!

People are pretty rad on this forum i love it. Much less flamin than ive seen elsewhere.


Your location sez Los Altos so it might be a hike to get up to "mcMark" in Sonoma, but it is WELL worth the journey! He is one of 'the men' in the Bay Area that knows his stuff and can guide you on your journey. Be clear about your goals and budget and timing and work with him....his 'original customs' banner advert is on the site.

and don't be fooled - there's flames here! LOL

cheers - and welcome! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif)

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Mwood   Power from a 914 aircooled   Feb 11 2013, 04:58 PM
SirAndy   Is it feasible to get around 250-300 torque/hp fro...   Feb 11 2013, 05:07 PM
Mwood   I guess that isnt surprising given the little i kn...   Feb 11 2013, 05:16 PM
r_towle   for your budget, you will be tight to build a stoc...   Feb 11 2013, 05:26 PM
tscrihfield   for your budget, you will be tight to build a sto...   Feb 11 2013, 05:38 PM
kg6dxn   You could add a 500 shot of Nitrus. That will give...   Feb 11 2013, 06:00 PM
damesandhotrods   I’ll give you the other side of the coin. With ...   Feb 11 2013, 06:35 PM
jdlmodelt   What minor mods on the cheap could I do to the 1.7...   Feb 11 2013, 07:14 PM
kg6dxn   What minor mods on the cheap could I do to the 1....   Feb 11 2013, 08:18 PM
somd914   One nice thing about the 914 - you can wind up thr...   Feb 11 2013, 07:42 PM
ConeDodger   You could spend $2K just on a good exhaust...   Feb 11 2013, 08:29 PM
jdlmodelt   You could spend $2K just on a good exhaust.....   Feb 11 2013, 09:33 PM
Vacca Rabite   You could spend $2K just on a good exhaust....   Feb 11 2013, 10:01 PM
jdlmodelt   [quote name='jdlmodelt' post='1818915' date='Feb ...   Feb 11 2013, 10:33 PM
JamesM   I'm not looking for big power. I have a 76FI ...   Feb 11 2013, 11:15 PM
jdlmodelt   I'm not looking for big power. I have a 76FI...   Feb 12 2013, 08:10 AM
Racer Chris   with the 96mm pistons and a modified cam will I s...   Feb 12 2013, 08:18 AM
Racer Chris   You could spend $2K just on a good exhaust....   Feb 12 2013, 08:17 AM
Randal   The only way to get 250ft lbs of torque is to go w...   Feb 11 2013, 11:30 PM
J P Stein   Sure, piece of cake........but bring your time, bi...   Feb 12 2013, 09:24 AM
Mwood   hey i just want to thank everyone so much for resp...   Feb 12 2013, 10:53 AM
SirAndy   where is the best place to get 911 suspension part...   Feb 12 2013, 12:50 PM
Mwood   where is the best place to get 911 suspension par...   Feb 12 2013, 02:43 PM
tadink   [quote name='SirAndy' post='1819200' date='Feb 12...   Feb 12 2013, 06:24 PM
Randal   hey i just want to thank everyone so much for res...   Feb 12 2013, 01:30 PM
DBCooper   I don't know who told you you'd need to dr...   Feb 12 2013, 11:58 AM
Mwood   Also just for fun...bored in class   Feb 12 2013, 12:32 PM
mittelmotor   I second the recommendation for HPH. Rich Bontempi...   Feb 12 2013, 01:37 PM
DBCooper   You can keep feeding crack to the hamster, but at ...   Feb 12 2013, 02:14 PM
Mwood   Still have the MR2 I sold you? :D Or maybe yo...   Feb 12 2013, 03:25 PM
mittelmotor   Still have the MR2 I sold you? :D Or maybe y...   Feb 13 2013, 01:09 AM
brant   for a small budget, expect about 100hp actually i...   Feb 12 2013, 04:01 PM
Randal   BTW if you live in Los Altos we should get togethe...   Feb 13 2013, 10:14 AM
Porscharu914   :wttc: If you're looking for around 150 HP you...   Feb 13 2013, 11:08 AM
Andyrew   A motor swap is your only budget option for power....   Feb 13 2013, 12:31 PM


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