valvolene VR1 oil warning, I've been looking to change oil in the daily driver Options

[brant]

I've been doing a little research for a daily driver toyota....
thinking about changing oil brands and seeing what is out there for a flat tappet cam that is cheaper than Royal purple, and more available than brad penn

anyways... lots and lots of guys post about using VR1 lately

I found some valvolene materials that may be a typo
someone independently tested the 2 valvolene racing oils, and the street legal version (found at the flaps)

the tests show 800ppm zddp on the street legal oil
and 1300ppm on the two not street legal oils.

yet the valolene litterature claims 1300ppm on all of their grey bottled oils.

I would like to tell everyone to check the API starburst on the bottle
if your flaps, VR-1 is SM rated or street legal I am of the belief that you are NOT getting the zddp you need for our engines...

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there website looks positive
the scary thing that I found was someone had run independent tests of the VR1 and their test showed low zddp numbers, even though valvolene advertised differently....

I know one test doesn't prove everything
I know the manufacture is claiming higher numbers
perhaps it was a bad batch, or improper test?
I don't trust them at this point and will just not use VR1 street legal oil

again if it has an API SM rating I wouldn't trust it.

injunmort, do you have a bottle in your garage of what you use? I'm curious what the API starburst might be on it?

[dlkawashima]

there website looks positive
the scary thing that I found was someone had run independent tests of the VR1 and their test showed low zddp numbers, even though valvolene advertised differently....

I know one test doesn't prove everything
I know the manufacture is claiming higher numbers
perhaps it was a bad batch, or improper test?
I don't trust them at this point and will just not use VR1 street legal oil

Do you have a link to this test that has you scared?

EDIT

Here is a test (obviously not the one that has you concerned) that gives VR-1 conventional motor oil a high rating. Maybe it'll calm your fears:

dead link http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30483

new link https://540ratblog.wordpress.com/2013/06/20...r-test-ranking/

[brant]

there website looks positive
the scary thing that I found was someone had run independent tests of the VR1 and their test showed low zddp numbers, even though valvolene advertised differently....

I know one test doesn't prove everything
I know the manufacture is claiming higher numbers
perhaps it was a bad batch, or improper test?
I don't trust them at this point and will just not use VR1 street legal oil

Do you have a link to this test that has you scared?

Here is a test (obviously not the one that has you concerned) that gives VR-1 conventional motor oil a high rating ..... number 7 on the list. Maybe it'll calm your fears:

http://speedtalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=30483

I didn't save the link
I was searching on corvette forum
I'm still scared off from the SM coded oils.
they passed those API guidelines and tests by having catalylitic pollutants pulled out. I feel more comfortable with the Not street legal version

maybe I just need to buy more brad penn for my toyota

brant

[dlkawashima]

I didn't save the link
I was searching on corvette forum

If you're talking about this thread from 2007, it was clearly just 540RAT speculating. At that point in time he hadn't done any formal tests. He saw some numbers from other Valvoline street oils and simply came to the conclusion that VR-1 had to be in this same ZDDP range and not what the manufacturer claimed.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-tech-pe...ght-it-was.html