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> "TRANSZILLA", side shift 914 - 901 build
mrbubblehead
post Mar 9 2013, 08:15 PM
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after a couple of months of planning and parts collecting i have finally started my transzilla build. it will using a normal 914 side shift trans, with a few up grades, i will be dialing in the ring and pinion back to spec with this build also.

i laid all the parts out on my assembly table to give you guys an idea of all the parts installed.

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mrbubblehead
post Mar 14 2013, 01:44 PM
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i think we left off at measuring the pinion depth. unfortunately, i didnt get alot of pictures but i will post what i have. first i install porsche tool p258, then the gear stack and take the measurement. i know i know more math. then subtract that number from the number in the book. that will give me my gasket(s) thickness between the case and the intermediate plate. pull the gear stack and put the proper thickness gaskets in. dont be fooled. the gasket "kit" comes with three gaskets, but they are all the same thickness. and close dosnt work. i believe they are 0.20mm but porsche offers them in 0.15 and .10mm. you will have to use an assortment of different thicknesses to hit the mark. if you have to use more than .50mm total in gasket thickness you will need to reshim the pinion shaft. and of course the shims are at the bottom of the shaft so the whole shmeer has to come apart to get at them. precision counts. so measure carefully.
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after your gaskets are in place its time to measure again. in with p258 and gear stack. write the measurement down pull the stack and reinstall the stack again. its redundant i know but i like to make sure my measurements are repeatable and accurate. take your measurement and again subtract form your spec measurement. you only have a plus or minus of 0.03mm. mine came out pretty damn close. im satisfied.
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the next measurement to take is bearing preload. again, its good to have a nice assortment of shims. porsche's price per shim? youl'll never guess.... $17.50 PER SHIM!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sheeplove.gif)

also since i am using skf differential bearings they have a different spec than the fag bearings. i think it is 22-30 inch lbs. after the break away. this measurement is taken with both bearings lubed with gear oil and no seals in the case or side cover. i am using a billit side cover which uses the bigger 930 bearing on the cover side and regular 901 on the ring gear side.
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then is a matter of pressing on the bearings, install the dif and side cover, and measuring the preload. ONE WORD OF CAUTION! i never want to use too many shims to start with. to many shims will put the bearings in a bind, and you never want to put them in a bind. i start off thin and sneak up on it, untill im in spec. very very time consumeing.

sorry no pictures of the back lash adjustment, but there is one in the book. essentially what the backlash measurement is to mesh the ring gear to the pinion shaft. not to tight and not to loose (slop). this is a tedious job because you have your total shim thickness from both sides of the diff (preload). now you have to mix those shims to raise or lower the ring gear. it is alot of work pressing bearings off and on, swapping shims, assembling everything, measure, disassemble and do it as many times as necessary. one note. the manual says that the back lash spec is stamped on the side of the ring gear. i have yet to see this number stamped on a 914 ring gear. i have talk to 2 what i consider expert porsche gearbox builders and both told me the same spec. so thats the one i go with. it is a very minute amount of backlash with a very tight tolerance 0.03mm. again very very time consuming. and i make sure all my measurements are repeatable so i always have that extra step.

WHEW! questions so far?

next will be case prep.
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mrbubblehead   "TRANSZILLA"   Mar 9 2013, 08:15 PM
turk22   scary! :hide:   Mar 9 2013, 08:20 PM
mrbubblehead   a friend suggested i do a build thread after i dis...   Mar 9 2013, 09:46 PM
Richard Casto   a friend suggested i do a build thread after i di...   Mar 12 2013, 09:04 AM
mrbubblehead   a friend suggested i do a build thread after i d...   Mar 12 2013, 11:37 AM
Richard Casto   i will take a picture of my pinion depth tool for...   Mar 12 2013, 03:18 PM
396   I will take a picture of my pinion depth tool for ...   Mar 12 2013, 03:24 PM
mrbubblehead   I will take a picture of my pinion depth tool for...   Mar 12 2013, 03:40 PM
Richard Casto   I'm very interested in the bearing preload / ...   Mar 13 2013, 06:55 AM
mrbubblehead   then i had to assemble all of the spinning gears. ...   Mar 9 2013, 10:06 PM
mrbubblehead   the rest of the pinion shaft is just like assembli...   Mar 9 2013, 10:42 PM
dfelz   GO Doug! Glad you started your thread, project...   Mar 10 2013, 12:47 AM
yeahmag   Nice!   Mar 10 2013, 01:09 AM
mrbubblehead   thanks guys. i got the boring stuff out of the way...   Mar 10 2013, 01:16 AM
Black22   :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:   Mar 10 2013, 07:47 AM
396   Brings back memories - good luck with your build   Mar 10 2013, 10:06 AM
mrbubblehead   next on the list is to put together the intermedia...   Mar 10 2013, 06:32 PM
mrbubblehead   its time to install the main shaft and pinion shaf...   Mar 10 2013, 06:49 PM
Ductech   He'll I would like to know for that glorious d...   Mar 12 2013, 03:28 PM
mrbubblehead   He'll I would like to know for that glorious ...   Mar 12 2013, 03:41 PM
pcar916   :agree: Parts are all slightly different from ev...   Mar 13 2013, 11:44 AM
mrbubblehead   i'm back, i have been installing and testing t...   Mar 14 2013, 12:45 PM
Richard Casto   Hey, awesome stuff. If you are OK with it, I am g...   Mar 15 2013, 08:52 AM
mrbubblehead   i think we left off at measuring the pinion depth....   Mar 14 2013, 01:44 PM
396   Thanks for the written & visual education....i...   Mar 14 2013, 03:07 PM
mrbubblehead   Thanks for the written & visual education.......   Mar 14 2013, 03:56 PM
396   Thanks for the written & visual education......   Mar 14 2013, 05:25 PM
mrbubblehead   yes, its for my electronic speedo.   Mar 14 2013, 05:36 PM
Dr Evil   I love it :) :thumbsup: I agree that I have never...   Mar 14 2013, 06:31 PM
Dr Evil   A note, your adjusting of a used R&P does lend...   Mar 14 2013, 06:40 PM
Drums66   ....You do fine, clean work(I'm impressed) :th...   Mar 14 2013, 07:45 PM
dfelz   Looks great Doug, can really tell you have put a S...   Mar 14 2013, 10:37 PM
mrbubblehead   Looks great Doug, can really tell you have put a ...   Mar 14 2013, 11:30 PM
dfelz   all my new gauges came in so my new dash will be...   Mar 14 2013, 11:40 PM
'73-914kid   Oh no!!!!!! Its Tranzirra ...   Mar 14 2013, 11:20 PM
mrbubblehead   Oh no!!!!!! Its Tranzirra...   Mar 14 2013, 11:35 PM
mrbubblehead   i had mentioned earlier transzilla is going to be ...   Mar 15 2013, 08:32 AM
mrbubblehead   the oil cooler needed a little prep work before i ...   Mar 15 2013, 08:45 AM
396   Richard, great info. Too much for me digest for on...   Mar 15 2013, 09:06 AM
mrbubblehead   now for testing. because i dont have a lot of flui...   Mar 15 2013, 09:06 AM
dfelz   i dont have a lot of fluid dynamic experience i ...   Mar 16 2013, 11:32 PM
mrbubblehead   thanks for the input richard. i am a learning mofo...   Mar 15 2013, 09:21 AM
mrbubblehead   if anyone has any questions on anything jump in an...   Mar 15 2013, 10:00 AM
396   Very slick set up! If you had this 10 years ag...   Mar 15 2013, 01:53 PM
mrbubblehead   Very slick set up! If you had this 10 years a...   Mar 15 2013, 02:56 PM
Dr Evil   So fricken SWEET! I cant wait to hear how it a...   Mar 15 2013, 03:29 PM
mrbubblehead   thanks dr. e. the tranny is doing real good. that ...   Mar 16 2013, 11:06 PM
mrbubblehead   thanks david.... my preliminary calculations were ...   Mar 17 2013, 12:12 AM
Dr Evil   I would not recommend a flipped H for a stock mot...   Mar 17 2013, 03:07 PM
Cupomeat   This is a fantastic thread. Years ago before I mad...   Mar 17 2013, 03:19 PM
Dr Evil   The same as usual, from the fill hole. As long as ...   Mar 17 2013, 07:26 PM
monkeyboy   I would figure you would fill it the first time, r...   Mar 18 2013, 09:48 AM
PFM   Doug, Thanks so much for the link from PP this is...   Sep 16 2013, 10:54 PM


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