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| orthobiz |
Mar 9 2013, 09:54 AM
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I am a half-year 914 guy, the car spends a lot of time in winter storage here in Northern Michigan. I bought my 1974 1.8 in 2007, helped along by the generous advice of 914world members.
Now the Parade is only 40 miles from my house, I am thinking of entering the concours. Immediate questions involve the completely unoriginal radio, wheels that have been repainted, and front and rear sways that I had installed when Brad Mayeur did the original work on it. Otherwise it is a very clean car. I am wondering if I am ineligible for a "survivor" judging because of these mods? My original thread with pics: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...c=69564&hl= Thanks for your help. Paul |
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| 914runnow |
Mar 10 2013, 06:05 PM
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" I will be there for the fun with my 914 friend so it really does not matter, well a little bit. Tom "
I like the above quote......... have fun and let the chips fall where they may..... don't let the "Concour Madness" get to you.... sure judges will want "Q/Tip mentality".... have a good time with that....but to remove sways and radio change out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) . IF you Really want to win this...Give John Paterek an email....he was at Keystone did you meet him up there??? I know he will enjoy your 914 as is.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ...just know that the repaint on wheels won't kill yah...all these Barrett Jackson cars have been restored..... just being there is half the fun, as above quote......plus damn it is Really in your backyard....the expense to transport is next to nil..... your car will get plenty of Oogle's and Ah's..... and stories will abound from onlookers...I feel that is worth more than a ribbon.. Who know's..maybe you will come away with a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif) Rx |
| Jasfsmith |
Mar 11 2013, 09:34 AM
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 556 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Bangor, ME Member No.: 2,882 Region Association: North East States |
"plus damn it is Really in your backyard....the expense to transport is next to nil..... Rx "Transport"? Drive it!! Nothing I hate more than completing against a car that arrived on a trailer, and especially those that travel to the event on a trailer and uploaded a few miles from the site!!! I think it would be great if all entrants were required to drive a mandatory tour the day before the event. <grin> |
| 914runnow |
Mar 12 2013, 04:53 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 340 Joined: 19-April 04 From: Modesto California Member No.: 1,948 Region Association: None |
"plus damn it is Really in your backyard....the expense to transport is next to nil..... Rx "Transport"? Drive it!! Nothing I hate more than completing against a car that arrived on a trailer, and especially those that travel to the event on a trailer and uploaded a few miles from the site!!! I think it would be great if all entrants were required to drive a mandatory tour the day before the event. <grin> Sorry lost in translation...next to nil is a gallon of gas to get it there, and one to get it back... |
| Pat Garvey |
Mar 14 2013, 07:29 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,900 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
"plus damn it is Really in your backyard....the expense to transport is next to nil..... Rx "Transport"? Drive it!! Nothing I hate more than completing against a car that arrived on a trailer, and especially those that travel to the event on a trailer and uploaded a few miles from the site!!! I think it would be great if all entrants were required to drive a mandatory tour the day before the event. <grin> Sorry lost in translation...next to nil is a gallon of gas to get it there, and one to get it back... I know what James is talking about. There are teams, and I mean "teams", that "build" the cars for Parade concours, enclose trailer them to within a couple of mile of the event, & offload them as "driven to the event". Basically, they are cheaters. Lost to one of them the last time I competed. You'll never stop them, and a tour before the event won't help because they usually bring a cadre of lemmings to clean up. Lessons to be learned are: 1. The big bucks will usually win, but not always. 2. Enjoy the event & know that you are the best prepared. 3. PCA Parade is the "bigs" for Porsches. Losing is still a cred. 4. Stick with your car when it's being judged! The judges only "think they know" everything about a 914. If Paterak is judging run away, unless you can trump him with doc's. If you really believe that a judge has made a mistake, talk to him. If you're convinced that you are right and can prove it - protest. Last resort & you will probably be labelled for it if you lose. 5. If you feel the judges are happy with your car, and that you may be in the running for a class win, or BOS, leave towels on the engine to keep ambient dust, etc. from accumulating. f you are called to move your car to a different area for re-judging DO NOT forget to remove those toels FIRST (ask me later how I know). 6. Enjoy the wonderful lunch provided. Make new buddies. Nothing like it for a Porsche guy/gal. |
| orthobiz |
Mar 15 2013, 03:25 PM
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If Paterak is judging run away, unless you can trump him with doc's. I know Paterek from back in the 80's. I called him before buying my orange beauty, he used to work on my black car that Riley Rogers has now (long story). Regarding my orange car: I sent him pics of the car before I bought it and he told me "no, it costs too much." I bought it anyway... As far as the "trump with docs," does this mean a COA is an absolute must-have item? Bring all my receipts? How much will I get dinged for having installed sway bars that were not originally on the car? Paul |
| Pat Garvey |
Mar 15 2013, 06:50 PM
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Do I or don't I...........? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,900 Joined: 24-March 06 From: SE PA, near Philly Member No.: 5,765 Region Association: North East States |
If Paterak is judging run away, unless you can trump him with doc's. I know Paterek from back in the 80's. I called him before buying my orange beauty, he used to work on my black car that Riley Rogers has now (long story). Regarding my orange car: I sent him pics of the car before I bought it and he told me "no, it costs too much." I bought it anyway... As far as the "trump with docs," does this mean a COA is an absolute must-have item? Bring all my receipts? How much will I get dinged for having installed sway bars that were not originally on the car? Paul Paul, You MUST bring the COA! Original things like Monroney sticker would be good, but not mandatory. You will most likely get dinged for the stabilizers, but it shouldn't be huge and you can make up for the loss by super-detailing other areas. Examples: Steam clean the carpets. I don't care how clean you think they are, you won't believe the dingy crud that is removed by steam cleaning. Take q-tips and polish to the blades of the foglight grills. Easy, use a slow hand. Remember those procto swabs you sent me? Use a couple to swab out the tailpipe at the event. Use q-tips again to clean all dust/dirt from all vents, as well as the drids on the speaker grills.. Never, ever use Armorall for anything! There are good products out there (Griots) to maintain the patina of rubber parts. The bumper tops should be free of slick stuff and dimples. If they have dimples, contact Mikey. Don't use anything but warm mildly soapy water on your seats, if they're vinyl. Keep the patina. Jeez, the list goes on....... |
orthobiz 2013 Parade: Went over my Score Sheet Mar 9 2013, 09:54 AM
Jasfsmith Absolutely! If not the Preservation class, en... Mar 9 2013, 12:38 PM
Garland What parade are you speaking of?
And when where, p... Mar 9 2013, 02:11 PM
Tom_T Paul,
Preservation is Survivor/Originality & ... Mar 9 2013, 04:28 PM
TJB/914
I am a half-year 914 guy, the car spends a lot of... Mar 10 2013, 12:15 PM
Pat Garvey
I am a half-year 914 guy, the car spends a lot of... Mar 10 2013, 04:12 PM
Jasfsmith
If Paterak is judging run away, unless you can ... Mar 16 2013, 02:46 PM
Pat Garvey
[quote name='orthobiz' post='1835135' date='Mar 1... Mar 17 2013, 06:48 PM
bulitt If you love your car, are passionate about it, kno... Mar 11 2013, 06:03 AM
orthobiz Thanks for all the replies. I'll post again wh... Mar 11 2013, 02:35 PM
Ferg Cool Paul. I'm hoping to be there as well. Mar 11 2013, 03:47 PM
Pat Garvey There is a slight (repeat, slight) chance that we... Mar 11 2013, 04:39 PM
Ferg
There is a slight (repeat, slight) chance that we... Mar 11 2013, 04:48 PM
orthobiz I entered the concours in the "touring" ... Mar 12 2013, 06:27 PM
Cupomeat Glad you are showing it.
If my 914 looked as nice... Mar 12 2013, 07:48 PM
John Jentz Go to the Parade site and download the Parade Comp... Mar 13 2013, 08:56 AM
orthobiz I feel a bit silly because I cannot find the compe... Mar 13 2013, 10:42 AM
John Jentz
I feel a bit silly because I cannot find the comp... Mar 14 2013, 02:40 PM
Eric_Shea I'm in the middle of the registration process ... Mar 14 2013, 10:07 AM
TJB/914
I'm in the middle of the registration process... Mar 14 2013, 12:00 PM
Pat Garvey
I'm in the middle of the registration process... Mar 14 2013, 07:01 PM
porbmw Dunno Eric
Seems to be in a class of it's own... Mar 14 2013, 11:35 AM
Eric_Shea Read through everything I could and went with Modi... Mar 17 2013, 06:52 PM
TJB/914
Read through everything I could and went with Mod... Mar 18 2013, 01:40 PM
orthobiz Pat, thanks for the inspiration.
Eric, Ferg, Tom, ... Mar 17 2013, 08:15 PM
rnellums I'm trying to decide whether to enter mine or ... Mar 19 2013, 03:37 PM
Pat Garvey
I'm trying to decide whether to enter mine or... Mar 20 2013, 06:46 PM
orthobiz It is not helpful that the 2012 Salt Lake City Rul... Mar 20 2013, 05:45 AM
orthobiz My Cert of Authenticity arrived. Man, is it underw... Apr 11 2013, 05:43 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn Paul,
You may already be anticipating this level ... Apr 11 2013, 07:22 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn ....and...... Apr 11 2013, 07:23 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn ...and .......(this was Pat Garvey when he had a 9... Apr 11 2013, 07:30 PM
orthobiz Thanks for the inspiration! I hope to put up s... Apr 11 2013, 07:43 PM
orthobiz Guess I have a trailer queen. I am looking at the ... Apr 13 2013, 07:24 PM
orthobiz So, in trying to decipher the rules, there are ... Apr 13 2013, 07:36 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn
So, in trying to decipher the rules, there are ... Apr 13 2013, 09:22 PM
orthobiz Safe in the bubble, I deflated it and uncovered it... Apr 14 2013, 05:54 PM
orthobiz The Certificate of Authenticity makes no mention o... Apr 14 2013, 06:00 PM
Pat Garvey
The Certificate of Authenticity makes no mention ... Apr 15 2013, 07:21 PM
orthobiz So I brought my car into the local guru of paint t... May 3 2013, 03:16 PM
Jeff Bowlsby The literature says it is enamel, it looks like en... May 3 2013, 05:58 PM
orthobiz Thanks Jeff. He used his photo spectrometer thingy... May 3 2013, 06:15 PM
Jeff Bowlsby I don't think its a spectrometer, its a digita... May 3 2013, 07:51 PM
Pat Garvey
I don't think its a spectrometer, its a digit... May 4 2013, 06:30 PM
orthobiz He used the spectrometer to mix up some touchup pa... May 4 2013, 05:50 PM
tod914 You have to be real careful with buffing. I would... May 4 2013, 07:00 PM
orthobiz Wow! Thanks Tod! Just the kind of info I... May 4 2013, 07:56 PM
tod914 Paul they are abrasives, but by hand you can contr... May 4 2013, 10:20 PM
Pat Garvey
Paul they are abrasives, but by hand you can cont... May 5 2013, 07:19 PM
orthobiz I spoke with John Paterek yesterday. When I lived ... May 7 2013, 05:13 AM
tod914 Not to dispute John, but that Blue magic and PS21 ... May 7 2013, 03:26 PM
Pat Garvey
Not to dispute John, but that Blue magic and PS21... May 7 2013, 07:36 PM
Jasfsmith
Not to dispute John, but that Blue magic and PS2... May 8 2013, 08:07 AM
tod914 Pat, I've been to quite a few of John's wo... May 7 2013, 10:34 PM
orthobiz Dang! Now I'm really confused!!... May 8 2013, 10:36 AM
orthobiz Regarding tod914's comment, the main differenc... May 8 2013, 10:40 AM
tod914 Paul, I guess it all comes down to the condition o... May 8 2013, 12:08 PM
orthobiz My wheels are off to Paterek Brothers, Chatham NJ ... May 8 2013, 04:19 PM
orthobiz Tires have arrived! 5 Michelin XZX 165SR15.
I... May 10 2013, 04:37 PM
Pat Garvey
Tires have arrived! 5 Michelin XZX 165SR15.
... May 11 2013, 06:31 PM
orthobiz I'm with you, thanks Pat!
Paul May 11 2013, 07:54 PM
rnellums For anyone ordering from detailer's domain, th... May 13 2013, 10:02 AM
orthobiz
For anyone ordering from detailer's domain, t... May 13 2013, 10:41 AM
Pat Garvey Paul,
We expect copious quantities of pics from th... May 16 2013, 06:49 PM
Eric_Shea Please Paul; no more pictures of Pat in shorty sho... May 17 2013, 03:31 PM
Pat Garvey
Please Paul; no more pictures of Pat in shorty sh... May 17 2013, 06:18 PM
turk22 I wanted to share this process I found for restori... May 18 2013, 08:35 PM
rnellums
I wanted to share this process I found for restor... May 20 2013, 07:23 AM
orthobiz Thanks everybody. I'm having success with a da... May 19 2013, 06:02 AM
orthobiz Maybe a dumb question, but here goes:
I'm in t... Jun 7 2013, 03:59 PM
dcheek Ahhhhhhhh,
Reading this thread brings back all th... Jun 11 2013, 10:32 AM
orthobiz Hey Dave, thanks for all the good advice. Good to ... Jun 11 2013, 07:50 PM
Pat Garvey
Hey Dave, thanks for all the good advice. Good to... Jun 14 2013, 06:03 PM
orthobiz If I promise now to add pics this weekend, maybe I... Jun 14 2013, 05:54 AM
orthobiz Thanks Pat, your words of encouragement mean a lot... Jun 15 2013, 06:11 AM
orthobiz OK, you're leaving the dealership...Where did ... Jun 20 2013, 07:42 PM
Jasfsmith
OK, you're leaving the dealership...Where did... Jun 21 2013, 11:17 AM
1970 Neun vierzehn Paul,
I'm sure you have these items. The disp... Jun 21 2013, 01:52 PM
orthobiz Some late night cell phone pictures with tree shad... Jun 22 2013, 06:15 PM
orthobiz Been super busy at home, hope to post a few pics s... Jun 25 2013, 07:24 PM
Jasfsmith Great job Paul!
Now you have the post victory... Jun 26 2013, 08:05 AM
Jgilliam914
Great job Paul!
Now you have the post victor... Jun 26 2013, 10:15 AM
1970 Neun vierzehn :clap: :clap: :clap:
A well deserved huzzahh f... Jun 25 2013, 07:44 PM
orthobiz Pictures compliments of Jerry...jgilliam
http://w... Jun 25 2013, 09:11 PM
orthobiz I did not contest them because I did not read the ... Jun 27 2013, 03:55 PM
Jeff Bowlsby
I did not contest them because I did not read the... Jun 29 2013, 11:31 PM
orthobiz
You might want to look into the center console. ... Jun 30 2013, 05:29 PM
Pat Garvey Paul
Congrats! Never a doubt that you would w... Jun 28 2013, 06:09 PM
orthobiz So this raises the question of whether my car has ... Jun 30 2013, 05:38 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn Paul,
The CoAs for 914s seem to be useful only f... Jun 30 2013, 06:54 PM
orthobiz
Paul,
The CoAs for 914s seem to be useful only ... Jun 30 2013, 07:44 PM
Jasfsmith As my 914-6 is a Euro version imported from Switze... Jul 2 2013, 07:26 AM
Jeff Bowlsby Sure seems like a COA error. All 1974 914s have t... Jul 1 2013, 02:39 PM
Philip W. having only been a 914 owner for a few short years... Jul 2 2013, 06:35 AM![]() ![]() |
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