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> 1973 914 was/is my first car, Beginning of a restoration journey
doug_b_928
post Jan 29 2013, 11:12 AM
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Hi Guys,

I'm a new member. I bought my 914, which was/is my first car, in 1985. I drove it as a summer car from 85-95. I would bet that I only put 10,000 kms on it over that time, if that. Then my education and career got in the way and it hasn't been licensed since. It was driven to the spot where it now sits (in a shed on the farm where I grew up, a couple of hours away from me) in 2001 after having not been registered since 1995. I've finally reached a point in my life where I can take time to work on cars. I started doing my own maintenance on my 928 a couple of years ago and love working on it (as long as I don't screw anything up). So, I'm just beginning but am eager to learn (yes, I can already see these coming : (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) )

I'll attach pics of the car in its current condition below. I apologize in advance for the scores of questions that I will be asking in the coming months and years. I've been reading through a number of topics and see how helpful folks are on this forum, which helps to take much of the anxiety out of taking on this project.

This is going to be a long-term project as I'm still busy with work etc. My goal for this summer is to try to get it running and get everything working. Then over the winter develop a specific plan for restoration and give'er next summer. I spoke to the previous owner recently. He has owned many 914s and couldn't recall any specifics of this car. At the time I bought it I seem to recall someone saying that it came as a 1.7 but they had put a 1.8 into it. But the PO didn't recall changing the engine. So, question #1, how can I tell if it is a numbers matching car?

The car was mices free until last winter, and then last summer when I looked at it I found a couple of nests (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) . So, my first order of business in the spring will be to don a P100 respirator and clean out the mouse remnants. I'll throw out the aftermarket carpet I had put in. I've seen on this forum somewhere that there are OE looking carpet kits available. I'm pleasantly surprised by the available of parts for these cars.

Problems with the car that I recall from when I last drove it:

1. when I would drive on a dusty gravel road dust would bellow in from under the dash (maybe rust holes in the longs and heater pipes?).
2. I think the car had been hit in the left rear corner. The left rear wheel always had a slight wobble to it. Maybe needs new wheel bearing? The trunk back corners never sat perfectly flat, and the rear left fender always had an odd bubble area (filler?) by the bumper. I had it repainted and the bubble was still there (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) ). Rear bumper is black, front chrome. All indications for trauma to the back.
3. At the very end of driving it, the speedo started to make a whining noise. I think the car has about 86,000 kms on it.
4. The brake pedal had lost some tension and so after applying, I would pull it back with my foot.
5. The shifter was always a little bit sloppy.
6. The windshield wipers were never very good; couldn't keep up with a strong rain (this may be normal?)
7. Every spring, after sitting all winter, something would seize in the clutch and it wouldn't work. The technique my Dad figured out was to put the car in reverse and start it up. After the car would move back a bit the clutch would come free and work fine??
8. The only thing I ever had to have done to the car was move the fuel pump to the front due to vapor lock. It never let me down after that.

Any thoughts and advice you have on starting the process of fixing her up will be most welcome. Here she is:


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post Mar 31 2013, 08:54 PM
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Doug:

Sorry to see these pics. It looks at least as bad as the train wreck I bought about 4 years ago. I have a build thred on this site so you will get an idea of what you are in for - mouse nests & all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

There is hope...and I do not mean to discourage you...quite the contrary, as I like seeing teeners come back to life. If you are looking for a project, you got it! If you are looking for a teener to drive and enjoy with minimal work, I would bail out and look elsewhere.

It's becomes all about sentimental value for you. This project will try your patience and put a strain on your wallet.

Good luck with your decisions & keep us posted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

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QUOTE(saigon71 @ Mar 31 2013, 09:54 PM) *

Doug:

Sorry to see these pics. It looks at least as bad as the train wreck I bought about 4 years ago. I have a build thred on this site so you will get an idea of what you are in for - mouse nests & all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

There is hope...and I do not mean to discourage you...quite the contrary, as I like seeing teeners come back to life. If you are looking for a project, you got it! If you are looking for a teener to drive and enjoy with minimal work, I would bail out and look elsewhere.

It's becomes all about sentimental value for you. This project will try your patience and put a strain on your wallet.

Good luck with your decisions & keep us posted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Bob


Thanks, Bob. I did a scan of the build thread page and didn't see one with your name as the initial poster. Can you please let me know the title or provide a link? I'd like to check it out.
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QUOTE(doug_b_928 @ Mar 31 2013, 11:08 PM) *

QUOTE(saigon71 @ Mar 31 2013, 09:54 PM) *

Doug:

Sorry to see these pics. It looks at least as bad as the train wreck I bought about 4 years ago. I have a build thred on this site so you will get an idea of what you are in for - mouse nests & all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

There is hope...and I do not mean to discourage you...quite the contrary, as I like seeing teeners come back to life. If you are looking for a project, you got it! If you are looking for a teener to drive and enjoy with minimal work, I would bail out and look elsewhere.

It's becomes all about sentimental value for you. This project will try your patience and put a strain on your wallet.

Good luck with your decisions & keep us posted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Bob


Thanks, Bob. I did a scan of the build thread page and didn't see one with your name as the initial poster. Can you please let me know the title or provide a link? I'd like to check it out.


Here is a link to my build thread.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=123957&hl=

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QUOTE(saigon71 @ Apr 1 2013, 03:20 AM) *

QUOTE(doug_b_928 @ Mar 31 2013, 11:08 PM) *

QUOTE(saigon71 @ Mar 31 2013, 09:54 PM) *

Doug:

Sorry to see these pics. It looks at least as bad as the train wreck I bought about 4 years ago. I have a build thred on this site so you will get an idea of what you are in for - mouse nests & all. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)

There is hope...and I do not mean to discourage you...quite the contrary, as I like seeing teeners come back to life. If you are looking for a project, you got it! If you are looking for a teener to drive and enjoy with minimal work, I would bail out and look elsewhere.

It's becomes all about sentimental value for you. This project will try your patience and put a strain on your wallet.

Good luck with your decisions & keep us posted. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

Bob


Thanks, Bob. I did a scan of the build thread page and didn't see one with your name as the initial poster. Can you please let me know the title or provide a link? I'd like to check it out.


Here is a link to my build thread.

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=123957&hl=


Bob,
I checked out some of your thread, amazing work. If more had your skill a lot of these teeners would be saved instead of scrapped.

Dave
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doug_b_928   1973 914 was/is my first car   Jan 29 2013, 11:12 AM
Kirmizi   :wttc:   Jan 29 2013, 11:56 AM
JawjaPorsche   Hi Doug First: Welcome to 914 World. This is my...   Jan 29 2013, 12:26 PM
rgolia   :agree: , but it is your first car.....if the memo...   Jan 29 2013, 12:40 PM
rick 918-S   :wttc:   Jan 29 2013, 12:55 PM
doug_b_928   Thanks, guys, for the welcome. It is disheartenin...   Jan 29 2013, 12:56 PM
JawjaPorsche   Doug Please don't get discourage just because...   Jan 29 2013, 01:06 PM
dlee6204   First: Welcome to 914 World. This is my opinion a...   Jan 29 2013, 01:09 PM
jdlmodelt   I have to think First: Welcome to x19 World. Thi...   Mar 31 2013, 10:00 PM
billh1963   Need pictures of the longs, trunks, hell hole, flo...   Jan 29 2013, 01:32 PM
doug_b_928   Terry, no worries. I'm a firm believer in the...   Jan 29 2013, 02:14 PM
billh1963   Look for the thread on my car (started by scottyb)...   Jan 29 2013, 02:30 PM
doug_b_928   Here are all of the additional pics that I have of...   Jan 29 2013, 04:44 PM
JawjaPorsche   The interior does not look bad at all! :beer...   Jan 29 2013, 05:51 PM
doug_b_928   The interior does not look bad at all! :bee...   Jan 29 2013, 07:59 PM
Madswede   Did you relocate the fuse box to the front trunk s...   Jan 29 2013, 06:13 PM
doug_b_928   Did you relocate the fuse box to the front trunk ...   Jan 29 2013, 08:01 PM
JawjaPorsche   Did you relocate the fuse box to the front trunk...   Jan 29 2013, 08:48 PM
doug_b_928   [quote name='doug_b_928' post='1811749' date='Jan...   Jan 29 2013, 10:46 PM
SKL1   Sentimentality plays a big part in a lot of these ...   Jan 29 2013, 06:14 PM
Jgilliam914   Welcome Doug! Do not be discouraged at all. Ta...   Jan 29 2013, 06:17 PM
Tom_T   :wttc: Two great p-cars - the 914 & 914+14...   Jan 29 2013, 06:21 PM
kg6dxn   :wttc: It becomes an addiction! Realistical...   Jan 29 2013, 08:13 PM
doug_b_928   :wttc: It becomes an addiction! Realistica...   Jan 29 2013, 08:48 PM
rick 918-S   I don't think your upside down. The rusted fro...   Jan 30 2013, 09:24 AM
doug_b_928   Thanks, Rick, for your encouragement, and thanks a...   Jan 30 2013, 09:48 AM
doug_b_928   Something I've been wondering about as I read ...   Jan 30 2013, 09:55 AM
saigon71   Something I've been wondering about as I read...   Jan 30 2013, 10:11 AM
doug_b_928   Are there instructions for how to properly brace a...   Jan 30 2013, 04:40 PM
saigon71   Are there instructions for how to properly brace ...   Jan 31 2013, 04:55 PM
Jgilliam914   Rick, are you saying that it's better to just ...   Jan 30 2013, 09:56 AM
steuspeed   There are tons of build and restoration threads he...   Jan 30 2013, 06:14 PM
Gint   Hi Doug. :wttc: Get it running and drive it a fe...   Jan 30 2013, 07:19 PM
doug_b_928   Hi Doug. :wttc: Get it running and drive it a f...   Jan 30 2013, 11:17 PM
Krank   Hi Doug, Got your PM. I plan on putting insurance...   Feb 10 2013, 07:35 PM
doug_b_928   That would be terrific, Jim! Great that you h...   Feb 10 2013, 07:50 PM
doug_b_928   For Easter weekend I went to the farm to visit my ...   Mar 31 2013, 08:23 PM
saigon71   Doug: Sorry to see these pics. It looks at least...   Mar 31 2013, 08:54 PM
doug_b_928   Doug: Sorry to see these pics. It looks at leas...   Mar 31 2013, 09:08 PM
saigon71   [quote name='saigon71' post='1843387' date='Mar 3...   Apr 1 2013, 05:20 AM
arkitect   [quote name='saigon71' post='1843387' date='Mar ...   Apr 1 2013, 11:07 AM
Jeff Bowlsby   Lots of rust repair/repalcement panels to save thi...   Mar 31 2013, 10:15 PM
doug_b_928   Lots of rust repair/repalcement panels to save th...   Apr 1 2013, 07:51 AM
Cupomeat   [quote name='Jeff Bowlsby' post='1843425' date='M...   Apr 1 2013, 10:37 AM
doug_b_928   I'll be perusing Bob's thread as soon as I...   Apr 1 2013, 11:48 AM
SUNAB914   Looks like a pipe? OOCH!   Apr 1 2013, 02:12 PM
doug_b_928   Looks like a pipe? OOCH! Are you referring...   Apr 1 2013, 04:42 PM
Dave_Darling   Yes. That's not stock from any year 9 1 4 (tr...   Apr 1 2013, 08:10 PM
doug_b_928   Yes. That's not stock from any year 9 1 4 (t...   Apr 1 2013, 08:18 PM
doug_b_928   I tried to locate the engine numbers when I was th...   Apr 2 2013, 09:20 PM
rnellums   The hole in the back of the trailing arm should be...   Apr 3 2013, 08:44 AM
doug_b_928   Thanks very much for your response to my questions...   Apr 3 2013, 09:03 AM
rnellums   Bus heads would not have the exhaust ports on the ...   Apr 3 2013, 09:09 AM
Dave_Darling   The 1972+ Buses used Type IV engines with the exha...   Apr 3 2013, 03:05 PM
doug_b_928   Excellent information guys, thank you! IIRC...   Apr 3 2013, 06:44 PM
doug_b_928   Yesterday I removed the fuel pump and tank for the...   Sep 8 2013, 10:54 AM
dlee6204   1. What you're looking at are stacked shims b...   Sep 8 2013, 11:32 AM
SirAndy   1. What you're looking at are stacked shims b...   Sep 8 2013, 06:00 PM
doug_b_928   Excellent info, thanks Doug!   Sep 8 2013, 05:19 PM
doug_b_928   My guess is a bent chassis. The right rear is abo...   Sep 8 2013, 06:11 PM
doug_b_928   I just had a look. There appear to be 3 spacers o...   Sep 10 2013, 09:00 AM
doug_b_928   Bump for any thoughts on this.   Sep 11 2013, 06:57 AM
Eric_Shea   Something amiss. I'd look for some fairly obvi...   Sep 11 2013, 07:15 AM
jimkelly   I will simply say this - don't UNDER ESTIMATE ...   Sep 11 2013, 07:24 AM
rick 918-S   Suspension pick up points are set with fixtures wh...   Sep 11 2013, 07:59 AM
jimkelly   hole - yes   Sep 11 2013, 08:11 AM
rick 918-S   I was referring to the inner mount and bushings Ji...   Sep 11 2013, 08:30 AM
doug_b_928   Poking around this morning I found all of this.......   Jul 26 2014, 11:20 AM
saigon71   Sorry to hear the news about the left long Doug. ...   Jul 27 2014, 08:15 AM
doug_b_928   Thanks, Bob. It's good to hear from someone t...   Jul 27 2014, 07:52 PM
mepstein   That's a very rusty car. You will spend thousa...   Jul 27 2014, 08:19 PM


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