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last337
post Feb 27 2013, 05:16 PM
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So I have had my 914 for about 3 months now. I get an email today from the DMV saying that they have frozen my title because the amount I paid listed on bill of sale ($1200) basically was not enough and that they value the car at $16800 and I now owe them the balance on taxes which is about $1200. I know they could contact the seller to ensure I paid what I say I paid but I cant imagine he would even respond to them since he is out of state and has no reason to deal with excess paperwork with an out of state DMV. Even if the number was lowered on the bill of sale from what was actually paid (a common practice I know takes place), how can they say it is worth $16800? Well I figured that out too. Check out this link and you will see. What a crock! At least I went through a title guy that can possibly take care of it all for me. He said to send him the paperwork and he will call someone there directly and see what the deal is.

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rick 918-S
post Apr 3 2013, 07:59 PM
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I had the same experience here in MN back in 94 when I went to transfer the Alien. The DMV guy sent the letter stating there was a problem with my vin and the amount showing I paid for my car. He wanted me to contact him. I seriously paid $ 1500.00. Same deal when I called. They were using Old Cars Price Buyers Guide. One of the problems was he was using a 72 914-6 as a comp. Here's what I told him. I told him my car needed work. He wanted me to complete all the work and send him copies of the invoices before allowing me to get my renewal tabs as he stated if the car needed work it was not safe for the road. I told him I was doing the work. He still wanted to tax me for the completed value of the car. I informed him I was paying taxes on the purchased parts and he would be double taxing me. I went on to state just because I made a good purchase does not entitle the state to over tax me.

I informed him they may collect the taxes from the new owner when I sold the car for a profit. (like that ever happens with these cars... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) )

I told him he could either send out my renewal tabs or send me a bill for what he thought I owed him. I told him if he failed to send the tabs I would splash this all over the news. Photos of the car, letters from the state and a call to the attorney general.

You see our attorney general at the time was running commercials for senior citizens warning them of unscrupulous individuals attempting to extort money from them. I stated that I'm sure he would like to get ahead of the press and set things right.

I received the tabs and no further correspondence.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)

Since then they changed the law. No more classic car extortion.
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post Apr 3 2013, 08:14 PM
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I had the same experience here in MN back in 94 when I went to transfer the Alien. The DMV guy sent the letter stating there was a problem with my vin and the amount showing I paid for my car. He wanted me to contact him. I seriously paid $ 1500.00. Same deal when I called. They were using Old Cars Price Buyers Guide. One of the problems was he was using a 72 914-6 as a comp. Here's what I told him. I told him my car needed work. He wanted me to complete all the work and send him copies of the invoices before allowing me to get my renewal tabs as he stated if the car needed work it was not safe for the road. I told him I was doing the work. He still wanted to tax me for the completed value of the car. I informed him I was paying taxes on the purchased parts and he would be double taxing me. I went on to state just because I made a good purchase does not entitle the state to over tax me.

I informed him they may collect the taxes from the new owner when I sold the car for a profit. (like that ever happens with these cars... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif) )

I told him he could either send out my renewal tabs or send me a bill for what he thought I owed him. I told him if he failed to send the tabs I would splash this all over the news. Photos of the car, letters from the state and a call to the attorney general.

You see our attorney general at the time was running commercials for senior citizens warning them of unscrupulous individuals attempting to extort money from them. I stated that I'm sure he would like to get ahead of the press and set things right.

I received the tabs and no further correspondence.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/first.gif)

Since then they changed the law. No more classic car extortion.

Nice going Rick. Like most beaurocrats, when you call them on something, they fold like a house of cards. I had trouble with a building inspector years ago (he called me a "liar" on the phone) and when I went down to see him (after talking to my City Councilman), (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) the building inspector refered to me as MR. Cannon and straightened everything out in about 5 minutes. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif)
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last337   Ugh! DMV   Feb 27 2013, 05:16 PM
biosurfer1   Yep, this is what happens with old cars. The value...   Feb 27 2013, 05:20 PM
JamesM   I have been required to provide an explanation bef...   Feb 27 2013, 05:28 PM
chads74   That happened last time I bought a car in Texas. T...   Feb 27 2013, 05:28 PM
last337   Well like I said, I spoke with my title guy and he...   Feb 27 2013, 05:29 PM
carr914   There are definately ways to contest it, I'm s...   Feb 27 2013, 05:34 PM
chads74   There are definately ways to contest it, I'm ...   Feb 27 2013, 05:40 PM
last337   Fortunately I have some pics of it before I starte...   Feb 27 2013, 05:37 PM
wndsrfr   EXACTLY.....same thing here in Virginia when I wen...   Feb 27 2013, 06:56 PM
last337   EXACTLY.....same thing here in Virginia when I we...   Feb 27 2013, 08:05 PM
toolguy   Get a receipt from the seller for $1500 for a...   Feb 27 2013, 08:26 PM
mepstein   I've never purchased a 914 for more than ...   Feb 27 2013, 08:28 PM
somd914   Maryland has an awful MVA (DMV for most states), b...   Feb 27 2013, 09:28 PM
aircooledtechguy   A good practice is to ALWAYS get a recipt (hand wr...   Feb 27 2013, 09:48 PM
ruby914   I'm sure they have already sent the seller ...   Feb 27 2013, 11:10 PM
bigkensteele   *** Edit - just don't lie. They can really co...   Feb 27 2013, 11:40 PM
euro911   A Bill of Sale should be the document for determi...   Feb 28 2013, 12:45 AM
last337   The thing is that I did have a bill of sale BC the...   Feb 28 2013, 06:48 AM
dcecc1968   Had a similar issue a few months back with a Count...   Feb 28 2013, 07:17 AM
Woody   You need to have the car appraised and submit that...   Feb 28 2013, 07:20 AM
mr914   I always add the phrase "as is, where is. Ca...   Feb 28 2013, 08:12 AM
naro914   in NC, they don't even want to see a Bill of S...   Feb 28 2013, 10:03 AM
Krieger   Wow this sounds like a political thread of some TE...   Feb 28 2013, 10:55 AM
euro911   Would this be considered a 'Belly Dragger...   Feb 28 2013, 11:45 AM
last337   Well I talked to the title/notary guy and he said ...   Feb 28 2013, 03:03 PM
somd914   I am creating my list of things to-do and things...   Mar 2 2013, 07:43 PM
flippa   You may be able to reduce the cost of registration...   Feb 28 2013, 04:12 PM
Drums66   ...And don't let it go into SUSPENSION!...   Mar 2 2013, 03:42 PM
last337   Just wanted to give an update on this. I spoke to...   Apr 3 2013, 09:31 AM
anderssj   I know I'm a little late on this, but I had a ...   Apr 3 2013, 09:42 AM
rick 918-S   I had the same experience here in MN back in 94 wh...   Apr 3 2013, 07:59 PM
Elliot Cannon   I had the same experience here in MN back in 94 w...   Apr 3 2013, 08:14 PM
dcheek   Last337, You should fork over the extra $120...   Apr 5 2013, 08:41 AM
tacm   OH wow, my first post. I have been lurking for a w...   Apr 5 2013, 09:10 PM


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