Patrick vs Rich?, /6 motor mount questions Options

[bradtho]

I hope to switch to a 6 in the not too distant future so am thinking about installing the motor mount while I'm doing some body & paint work this year. Yeah, classic "while I'm in there" syndrome. So...

For those of you who have used both, does the weld in PMS mount transmit more vibration than the RJ style? I like the design of the PMS a lot, but this is a street car and I want my wife to like riding in the car. doesn't seem to have much rubber in there to isolate the engine from the body.

Will either mount get in the way of a normal 4 setup, while I wait for the motor swap? seems like the Patrick mount is less likely to get in the way of anything.

I'm assuming no issues with running heat exchangers on either mount, right?

[carr914]

Ask Iverson about his Patrick mount......

I believe that was a different style of mount from the ones being discussed here. That was the "Quick Six" type that has a single bar going between the -4 motor mount pods, not the weld-in types that were first asked about.

But yeah, they did not exactly cover themselves in glory with that incident.

--DD

Is Iversons experience a secret? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) So, what happened to Iversons Patrick mount? Was it so horrendous, no one wants to share it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

Elliot, this was a Long Time ago & Rico is just stirring up Shit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)

The Patrick Mount that he is talking about is Not the Current Mount that Patrick offers. It was the Chrome Moly Bar that attached to the -4 Mounting Areas and held the -6 Engine. Iverson's Broke at the Weld between the Bar & the Engine Mount Plate and I believe his engine dropped. I don't remember the whole story, but there might have been an re-weld at that point that contributed to the problem.

I used that Chrome Moly Mount in a Race Car with no problems as did many others. John Forbes, who has probably built as many 914-6 Conversion Race Cars always used this mount.

As in any product, there is a potential for a Problem, but I have found Patrick Products to be well made. The Nice thing about his new mount is that it can swivel the motor down in order to do Valve Adjustments (particulilary hard on a Twin-Plug motor)

[brant]

Ask Iverson about his Patrick mount......

I believe that was a different style of mount from the ones being discussed here. That was the "Quick Six" type that has a single bar going between the -4 motor mount pods, not the weld-in types that were first asked about.

But yeah, they did not exactly cover themselves in glory with that incident.

--DD

Is Iversons experience a secret? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) So, what happened to Iversons Patrick mount? Was it so horrendous, no one wants to share it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

Elliot, this was a Long Time ago & Rico is just stirring up Shit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/stirthepot.gif)

The Patrick Mount that he is talking about is Not the Current Mount that Patrick offers. It was the Chrome Moly Bar that attached to the -4 Mounting Areas and held the -6 Engine. Iverson's Broke at the Weld between the Bar & the Engine Mount Plate and I believe his engine dropped. I don't remember the whole story, but there might have been an re-weld at that point that contributed to the problem.

I used that Chrome Moly Mount in a Race Car with no problems as did many others. John Forbes, who has probably built as many 914-6 Conversion Race Cars always used this mount.

As in any product, there is a potential for a Problem, but I have found Patrick Products to be well made. The Nice thing about his new mount is that it can swivel the motor down in order to do Valve Adjustments (particulilary hard on a Twin-Plug motor)

yes to all of the above...

and beyond valve adjustment... I've replaced broken rocker shafts at the track because of the patrick mount.... in-between track sessions without missing a race.