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> We are screwed smog law passed
dmenche914
post Jul 1 2004, 04:40 PM
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AB 2683 passed the Senate transport committee, which means it will continue on for more votes. This will require smog tests for 1976 cars and newer forever, even when they are forty, fifty years old!

Here is the breakdown of votes:

Murray, Figueroa, Florez, Perata, Scott, Speier, and Torlakson all voted Yes, BASTARDS!!!

Ashborn, Karnette, Morrow, all did not vote, CHICKEN SHITS!!!

Mc Clintock, and Brulte voted No, HEROS!!!

It appears it now goes to another Senate Committee, I will try to keep you all updated on this crummy law.

Please call the Bastards, and Chicken Shits, and let them know how disapointed you are in them, and please call the Heros thank them, and ask them what you can do to help get this law struck down as it procededs thru the senate.


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post Jul 2 2004, 08:48 AM
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QUOTE(thomasotten @ Jul 2 2004, 07:47 AM)
QUOTE(Otmar @ Jul 2 2004, 02:14 AM)
If I seem a bit agitated, it's only because I used to be a head mechanic at a VW shop and I changed my profession just because I realized I was helping unknowing people muck up  the air by keeping old cars running.

... To me that says you would just as well breath the soup they call "air" in the big cities in China.


Your comment about China makes my point! The real aim of the liberal political philisopy is control, not clean air. In China, the governement controls everything, and their air is horrible.

And that whole deal about how you used to be a VW head mechanic, but then quit because you didn't want to help us poor saps like us unknowingly destroy the environment is a little arragant. My 914 used to get 32+ mpg. My New Beetle gets 24 on the highway!

The goverment going after hot-rodders and classic car owners is just a way for them to look like they are doing something so those environmental extreemists will vote for them. Making it harder on a few car owners won't have any real effect on air quality.

Come on now, I know you're pissed and all and I understand. But you can't say that because Communist China screwed up the air, it'll happen here if we allow them to start restricting the use of above-average poluting engines. Thats just silly.

Otmar's not disputing gas mileage, he's talking about polution. Even if your teener used to get 32+ mpg, (A beetle should be getting around 30. I'd be concerned about the beetle getting only 24.) I'd be willing to bet it produces far more polution.

I don't think he's being arogant, just responsible given the information and opinions he has. The argument on exactly what and how much damage is being caused by older cars is a much more difficult one as there is a lot of theory all over the place, and a lot of lab fact, but its much more difficult to measure specifically as the changes in the atmosphere surrounding big cities has been affected by countless other variables over the years as well. But I don't think anyone can argue with the fact that reducing polutants is a good thing. There are lots of other sources but this happens to be a place to start. I'm sure that there have been large changes in laws govering manufacturing processes over the years too.

Now that visual inspection crap is just plain rediculous. I don't know law, but is there a quicker/easier way to challenge that law other than petitioning or voting someone in office hoping they'll tackle it? Can you take the state to court for something like that?
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dmenche914   We are screwed smog law passed   Jul 1 2004, 04:40 PM
Jake Raby   Move to a real state.... Sorry to hear that guys,...   Jul 1 2004, 04:43 PM
rdauenhauer   Better yet Dave fill in your location so we know W...   Jul 1 2004, 04:52 PM
Jenny   or check out Tom's post titled AB 2683 passe...   Jul 1 2004, 04:55 PM
DrifterJay   I love owning a 72... :D   Jul 1 2004, 05:52 PM
fiid   IMHO it is inevitable that this will pass. The st...   Jul 1 2004, 06:16 PM
Andyrew   I COULD stand them makeing me do a tailpipe test (...   Jul 1 2004, 07:39 PM
Andyrew   Oh ya, i have a 73 in a box incase someone wants t...   Jul 1 2004, 07:40 PM
thomasotten   "Warm Winds Blowing Heating blue sky And a Road th...   Jul 1 2004, 08:54 PM
newdeal2   That's one thing I like about Florida...NO emm...   Jul 1 2004, 09:39 PM
redshift   None? I dunno, I had some in Florida before, but ...   Jul 1 2004, 10:17 PM
gklinger   <...   Jul 1 2004, 11:14 PM
Otmar   Damn guys, I try to be quiet about this stuff, bu...   Jul 2 2004, 04:14 AM
bob174   Thank God for Texas!!! They've ju...   Jul 2 2004, 05:17 AM
thomasotten     Jul 2 2004, 06:47 AM
PatW     Jul 2 2004, 07:46 AM
mikester   <...   Jul 2 2004, 08:01 AM
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maf914   <...   Jul 2 2004, 02:29 PM
Dr Evil   Fuck, I just couldn't let it go <_<   Jul 3 2004, 04:16 PM
markb     Jul 3 2004, 05:11 PM
Mark Henry   Well if you think cali is wacked check this out. ...   Jul 3 2004, 05:14 PM
fiid   There is the slight problem that most of californi...   Jul 3 2004, 08:47 PM
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Red-Beard   I have 1 stipulation before re-instituting the bra...   Jul 3 2004, 10:15 PM
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