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| JimN73 |
 Sep 5 2012, 09:37 PM
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Senior Member  Group: Members Posts: 535 Joined: 6-October 07 From: Gig Harbor Member No.: 8,192 Region Association: Pacific Northwest  |
I've been talking to McMark for some time about the MS/ignition upgrade. I decided to to take the plunge a few weeks ago and asked Mark to put it on his schedule.
Jeff (JSConst) had bought a kit from Mark and decided not to use it, so I bought it from him. All of the pieces are together and Mark has time starting on Sunday. Unfortunately, my time is limited so I may not participate much. I will add updates as I learn of them, or Mark may do that if he has the time. |
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| JimN73 |
Apr 27 2013, 11:49 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 535 Joined: 6-October 07 From: Gig Harbor Member No.: 8,192 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
I went out this morning and got a pressure gauge (3 FLAPS and finally to Vic Hubbard Performance).
The gauge reads 24, Haynes says 34. I'm gonna guess that a 10 pound drop makes the pump essentially useless. And may have been contributing to the problems since MS went in. Good thing I like the guys a Parts Heaven. Mike, do you know where there is such a place in the Bay Area? I have not done a lot of tuning because there have been, hardware, noise and cold start issues since the installation. Now that those have been taken care of and the fuel issue will be solved shortly, I will spend some time tuning. |
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| Mike Bellis |
Apr 27 2013, 05:47 PM
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Resident Electrician Group: Members Posts: 8,347 Joined: 22-June 09 From: Midlothian TX Member No.: 10,496 Region Association: None 
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QUOTE(JimN73 @ Apr 27 2013, 10:49 AM)  I went out this morning and got a pressure gauge (3 FLAPS and finally to Vic Hubbard Performance). The gauge reads 24, Haynes says 34. I'm gonna guess that a 10 pound drop makes the pump essentially useless. And may have been contributing to the problems since MS went in. Good thing I like the guys a Parts Heaven. Mike, do you know where there is such a place in the Bay Area? I have not done a lot of tuning because there have been, hardware, noise and cold start issues since the installation. Now that those have been taken care of and the fuel issue will be solved shortly, I will spend some time tuning. Sounds like the same place. BRG Racing is the place I used. I tuned my self but If I did it again, I would have them fool with it. The price is about the same. 110 2nd Ave S. Unit D 12 - Pacheco, CA 94553 - Phone: 925.680.2560 - Fax: 925.680.2567 Toll Free # 1.877.ride.brg email: kc@brgracing.com |
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| JimN73 |
Apr 29 2013, 07:59 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 535 Joined: 6-October 07 From: Gig Harbor Member No.: 8,192 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
QUOTE(kg6dxn @ Apr 27 2013, 04:47 PM) QUOTE(JimN73 @ Apr 27 2013, 10:49 AM) I went out this morning and got a pressure gauge (3 FLAPS and finally to Vic Hubbard Performance). The gauge reads 24, Haynes says 34. I'm gonna guess that a 10 pound drop makes the pump essentially useless. And may have been contributing to the problems since MS went in. Good thing I like the guys a Parts Heaven. Mike, do you know where there is such a place in the Bay Area? I have not done a lot of tuning because there have been, hardware, noise and cold start issues since the installation. Now that those have been taken care of and the fuel issue will be solved shortly, I will spend some time tuning. Sounds like the same place. BRG Racing is the place I used. I tuned my self but If I did it again, I would have them fool with it. The price is about the same. 110 2nd Ave S. Unit D 12 - Pacheco, CA 94553 - Phone: 925.680.2560 - Fax: 925.680.2567 Toll Free # 1.877.ride.brg email: kc@brgracing.com Mike, your project is the only successful Micro/MegaSquirt project that they've had. And one that didn't work. They'r going to do some research and may take the project. I'm not sure that's progress. There are other dynotuners in the area, I have many calls to make. |
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| ConeDodger |
Apr 29 2013, 08:35 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 24,096 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(JimN73 @ Apr 29 2013, 05:59 PM) QUOTE(kg6dxn @ Apr 27 2013, 04:47 PM) QUOTE(JimN73 @ Apr 27 2013, 10:49 AM) I went out this morning and got a pressure gauge (3 FLAPS and finally to Vic Hubbard Performance). The gauge reads 24, Haynes says 34. I'm gonna guess that a 10 pound drop makes the pump essentially useless. And may have been contributing to the problems since MS went in. Good thing I like the guys a Parts Heaven. Mike, do you know where there is such a place in the Bay Area? I have not done a lot of tuning because there have been, hardware, noise and cold start issues since the installation. Now that those have been taken care of and the fuel issue will be solved shortly, I will spend some time tuning. Sounds like the same place. BRG Racing is the place I used. I tuned my self but If I did it again, I would have them fool with it. The price is about the same. 110 2nd Ave S. Unit D 12 - Pacheco, CA 94553 - Phone: 925.680.2560 - Fax: 925.680.2567 Toll Free # 1.877.ride.brg email: kc@brgracing.com Mike, your project is the only successful Micro/MegaSquirt project that they've had. And one that didn't work. They'r going to do some research and may take the project. I'm not sure that's progress. There are other dynotuners in the area, I have many calls to make. Try Sias Tuning. Vic Sias is a former SCCA National SoloII champ. He is a former Z car guy and I think autocrosses the snot out of a BMW these days. |
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JimN73 Another MS conversion Sep 5 2012, 09:37 PM
ConeDodger Wow! I can't believe Jeff gave that up... Sep 5 2012, 09:52 PM JimN73 So am I. But he has a lot of projects and I think... Sep 5 2012, 10:04 PM jsconst There were a few factors that prompted my desicion... Sep 5 2012, 11:30 PM
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There were a few factors that prompted my desicio... Sep 6 2012, 09:24 AM JimN73 Well, I got the car to McMark's yesterday with... Sep 10 2012, 10:15 AM jsconst Nice, that things going to drive like a whole new ... Sep 10 2012, 04:58 PM JimN73 Here's the e-mail I got from Mark this morning... Sep 12 2012, 06:49 PM JimN73 Mark has the car running. Not well at first, fixi... Sep 13 2012, 06:44 PM ConeDodger Very cool! Sep 13 2012, 06:47 PM kg6dxn Did you tell him it has to be done before the 914 ... Sep 13 2012, 06:52 PM JimN73 I was hoping to get it done this week so I could g... Sep 13 2012, 07:09 PM JimN73 The fuel pump started puking all over the place th... Sep 26 2012, 07:50 PM kg6dxn I've had to prime plenty of electric pumps for... Sep 26 2012, 09:16 PM Jeffs9146 I have a couple of very lightly used newer 2.0L In... Sep 26 2012, 09:46 PM JimN73 Thanks, Jeff. I got this one at Parts Heaven, the... Sep 26 2012, 10:08 PM ConeDodger I saw it running at The OC... Did you take it home... Sep 26 2012, 11:15 PM JimN73 I did bring it home. Mark wanted to take a few da... Sep 27 2012, 08:55 AM JimN73 Update: This has not beeen and is still not a pai... Oct 19 2012, 12:06 PM JimN73 This has not turned out as well as either Mark or ... Nov 2 2012, 01:04 PM r_towle
This has not turned out as well as either Mark or... Nov 2 2012, 03:49 PM Vacca Rabite Interesting to read.
I am getting the same setup a... Nov 2 2012, 03:56 PM JimN73 I'll keep you posted, Zach. It's hard to ... Nov 2 2012, 07:43 PM 904svo I was running a web 86B cam in a 2ltr engine. What... Nov 2 2012, 10:27 PM cgnj
I was running a web 86B cam in a 2ltr engine. Wha... Nov 3 2012, 02:23 AM rwilner Have you guys tried to run in tps only? Mps only?... Nov 3 2012, 06:40 AM 904svo
I was running a web 86B cam in a 2ltr engine. Wh... Nov 3 2012, 10:11 AM McMark Hmmm... I'll have to do some research on MAF s... Nov 2 2012, 10:56 PM ConeDodger Mark,
Would TPS work at low vacuum then switch to ... Nov 2 2012, 11:00 PM 3d914 Jim,
I did one with a Web73 cam - though it's... Nov 2 2012, 11:06 PM ericoneal If it helps at all, here is my msq file. The prev... Nov 3 2012, 09:05 AM kg6dxn A Ford Mustang MAF is the easiest to configure on ... Nov 3 2012, 10:02 AM ConeDodger
A Ford Mustang MAF is the easiest to configure on... Nov 3 2012, 11:09 AM McMark I tried MAP only. I tried TPS only. I tried blen... Nov 3 2012, 10:31 AM 904svo
I tried MAP only. I tried TPS only. I tried ble... Nov 3 2012, 11:10 AM McMark I believe you regarding the improvement of using a... Nov 3 2012, 11:28 AM JimN73 Thanks to everyone who has volunteered info. I... Nov 3 2012, 11:55 AM charliew My experience is only with my sons sti suby. You m... Nov 3 2012, 09:10 PM DNHunt I don't know if it is available with Microsqui... Nov 4 2012, 08:18 AM McMark Tried TPS only and tried blended with varying amou... Nov 4 2012, 11:51 AM JimN73 :headbang: :headbang:
Well, the MAF solution tha... Nov 26 2012, 09:55 PM 904svo
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Well, the MAF solution th... Nov 27 2012, 08:55 AM JimN73
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Well, the MAF solution t... Nov 27 2012, 08:11 PM Vacca Rabite The 9530 is mild enough to drive CIS. MS can drive... Nov 26 2012, 10:27 PM JimN73 If that's the case, and I thought it was, I ha... Nov 26 2012, 10:39 PM Vacca Rabite Get on the MegasquirtII forums. Post your logs an... Nov 27 2012, 05:24 AM Vacca Rabite Btw, the overlap period for the 9530 is 73.72 degr... Nov 27 2012, 09:46 AM ChrisNPDrider For what it's worth (Not much) I have adjusted... Nov 27 2012, 02:28 PM JimN73 Here is the tune file that I'm using and a log... Dec 1 2012, 04:14 PM JimN73
Here is the tune file that I'm using and a lo... Dec 23 2012, 06:28 PM 904svo Check your grounds to the sensors you are getting ... Dec 1 2012, 06:11 PM Dave_Darling Throttle position closing when you haven't tak... Dec 1 2012, 09:20 PM McMark Yeah, it's looking like there is a noise issue... Dec 2 2012, 12:52 AM 904svo Mark the best way to trouble shoot your problem is... Dec 2 2012, 08:31 AM McMark That's a good idea. I'm going to try shiel... Dec 2 2012, 11:32 AM karlo You may be looking at a sensor issue, but the MAP ... Dec 2 2012, 12:35 PM JimN73 Good stuff. Thanks to you all.
Sometimes having ... Dec 2 2012, 02:51 PM rwilner Mark
I looked at the log. Is the signal ground se... Dec 2 2012, 08:27 PM JimN73 Progress today. Mark got a VR sensor with a shiel... Dec 17 2012, 07:12 PM jsconst Glad to hear you're getting it sorted out Jim,... Dec 17 2012, 10:34 PM McMark Actually, it'll drive better at the AX than on... Dec 17 2012, 10:56 PM JimN73
Actually, it'll drive better at the AX than o... Dec 18 2012, 07:30 PM 904svo I had noise problem with COP'S that drove me c... Dec 18 2012, 10:53 AM McMark Hmm, but I thought people usually added resistor w... Dec 18 2012, 01:04 PM JimN73 Last week Mark rewired the VR sensor with shielded... Dec 22 2012, 12:09 PM draganc The link doesn't work.... Dec 23 2012, 12:56 PM DNHunt I'm not so sure this will help but, I shielded... Dec 23 2012, 04:29 PM kg6dxn You can also try an additional battery ground cabl... Dec 23 2012, 05:39 PM mrbubblehead and like we say at work.... no shield in the field... Dec 24 2012, 02:49 AM JimN73 I haven't been driving much, waiting for a new... Feb 8 2013, 03:07 PM JamesM
I haven't been driving much, waiting for a ne... Feb 10 2013, 10:32 AM Vacca Rabite Air Leaks? Gas turning sour? Not it has been a whi... Feb 8 2013, 03:32 PM JimN73 thanks, Zach. I'm sure the gas is good. I... Feb 8 2013, 03:37 PM Vacca Rabite Okay, my post was nearly unreadable. Thanks iPhon... Feb 8 2013, 04:54 PM scotty b
Okay, my post was nearly unreadable. Thanks iPho... Feb 8 2013, 06:22 PM JimN73 Thanks. Injection cleaner didn't work, I had ... Feb 10 2013, 11:43 AM JimN73 Little has changed.
Mark built a fully shielded h... Apr 26 2013, 05:02 PM r_towle inline fuel pressure gauge.
Suspect the fuel pump?... Apr 26 2013, 05:10 PM kg6dxn Before you junk it, Why not try a heavier flywheel... Apr 26 2013, 10:47 PM jpnovak Looking at your datalog the car is running really ... Apr 26 2013, 11:08 PM Vacca Rabite I agree with Mike. At this point you need a dyno a... Apr 27 2013, 08:31 AM JimN73
I went out this morning and got a pressure gauge... Apr 27 2013, 06:11 PM JimN73 I searched for dynotuning in the Bay Area and foun... Apr 27 2013, 02:58 PM jsconst Glad to hear your making progress Jim, hopefully t... Apr 27 2013, 08:41 PM r_towle Sorry to hear you are struggling so hard with the ... Apr 29 2013, 08:24 PM JimN73 I know, Rich, thanks.
I bought the pump (rebuilt)... Apr 29 2013, 08:39 PM bfrymire
I know, Rich, thanks.
I bought the pump (rebuilt... Apr 30 2013, 12:18 AM JamesM
I know, Rich, thanks.
I bought the pump (rebuil... May 15 2013, 05:06 PM ChrisNPDrider Good luck Jim! :beer2:
:) Apr 29 2013, 09:07 PM aircooledtechguy I would seriously contact Mario Velotta at www.the... Apr 29 2013, 09:28 PM JimN73
I would seriously contact Mario Velotta at www.th... May 15 2013, 05:13 PM kg6dxn There is a dyno shop in hayward. They specialize i... Apr 29 2013, 09:30 PM jpnovak I use the Ford F150/Crown Vic external pumps. The... Apr 30 2013, 11:38 AM JimN73 Progress!!
In the last week or so Mark an... May 15 2013, 04:56 PM JamesM
Progress!!
In the last week or so Mark a... May 15 2013, 05:03 PM JimN73
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