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914itis
post May 1 2013, 04:50 PM
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I sprayed a 2 stage paint for the first time. I primed with a 2 k primer cut with thinner, waited an hour spray the base coat, 3 coats then clear coat.

I am not sure If i miss some spots or if it is a reaction, for some reason, I can see the primer under the paint. It's hard to see but can be seen with enough lighting.

It can be see in a few areas.

What did I do wrong and how do I correct this ?
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post May 1 2013, 11:26 PM
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Ah, I know what you did then. You just simply missed those spots, or didn't see that you didn't have enough paint on them before you moved on to clear. Lighting is one of the most overlooked parts to painting a car, and one of the things that still screws me up. Not only do you miss those areas where the primer is still showing through, but you can't see how the paint is laying down as you are spraying the wettest coats. I've gotten better, but because I don't have a dedicated booth with great lights, I make the same mistakes. Don't beat yourself up. Perhaps some of the paint masters will show you some pictures of their booths so you know how a good setup really looks.

As jcl said, probably want to just sand those individual panels back down and start over. Wait several days to a week though for the paint to harden enough. You really don't want to try to touch up just those areas... two stage paint doesn't work like that. You can ask Scotty and Rick about blending, but as far as I know, the whole panel still has to be redone. But hey, it's good practice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post May 1 2013, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(ThePaintedMan @ May 2 2013, 01:26 AM) *

Ah, I know what you did then. You just simply missed those spots, or didn't see that you didn't have enough paint on them before you moved on to clear. Lighting is one of the most overlooked parts to painting a car, and one of the things that still screws me up. Not only do you miss those areas where the primer is still showing through, but you can't see how the paint is laying down as you are spraying the wettest coats. I've gotten better, but because I don't have a dedicated booth with great lights, I make the same mistakes. Don't beat yourself up. Perhaps some of the paint masters will show you some pictures of their booths so you know how a good setup really looks.

As jcl said, probably want to just sand those individual panels back down and start over. Wait several days to a week though for the paint to harden enough. You really don't want to try to touch up just those areas... two stage paint doesn't work like that. You can ask Scotty and Rick about blending, but as far as I know, the whole panel still has to be redone. But hey, it's good practice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)

I am sure that's what it is. Not to mention that the POS paint was hard to spray. It took me about 2 hours to spray 3 coats. I was afraid that it would be too hard for the cler and moved on. That's where I f&&$'d up.

Most if the car looks great. I just need to know how to proceed.
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914itis   2 stage paint   May 1 2013, 04:50 PM
bulitt   Dont have a clue, but the experts will want to kno...   May 1 2013, 05:16 PM
Andyrew   How many coats of base did you use? Depending on...   May 1 2013, 05:28 PM
ThePaintedMan   :agree: I don't have near the experience as ...   May 1 2013, 05:34 PM
914itis   I sprayed 3 coats, the primer is grey and the pain...   May 1 2013, 06:59 PM
ThePaintedMan   Red is a thin pigment as well and sometimes requir...   May 1 2013, 07:42 PM
PanelBilly   I think you have an expensive guide coat at the po...   May 1 2013, 08:10 PM
McMark   What line of PPG? If it's OMNI (the cheap stu...   May 1 2013, 09:23 PM
914itis   Yes , Omni. I asked for good stuff and that's ...   May 1 2013, 09:25 PM
McMark   WOW. :blink: Don't ever go back to that pain...   May 1 2013, 09:30 PM
ThePaintedMan   WOW. :blink: Don't ever go back to that pai...   May 1 2013, 09:32 PM
a914622   Is it thin all over or just a door bottom or somet...   May 1 2013, 10:23 PM
914itis   No, It is not all over. I have 3 small spots. un...   May 1 2013, 10:41 PM
ThePaintedMan   Ah, I know what you did then. You just simply miss...   May 1 2013, 11:26 PM
914itis   Ah, I know what you did then. You just simply mis...   May 1 2013, 11:36 PM
bulitt   Paul- You want the Deltron Line from PPG, primer, ...   May 2 2013, 05:02 AM
914itis   I spoke to the clown at the paint shop . He told m...   May 2 2013, 06:17 AM
timothy_nd28   I think a step was left out, the sealer coat after...   May 2 2013, 07:04 AM
rick 918-S   When I had my shop the DuPont rep would pull the s...   May 2 2013, 07:11 AM
914itis   When I had my shop the DuPont rep would pull the ...   May 2 2013, 07:25 AM
scotty b   PM sent Your paint supplier is an absolute idiot....   May 2 2013, 07:16 AM
Andyrew   Paul, At this point I think your best bet is to ...   May 2 2013, 07:35 AM
scotty b   Paul, At this point I think your best bet is to...   May 2 2013, 07:40 AM
Andyrew   Makes sense. I had a fear of solvents escaping whi...   May 2 2013, 07:54 AM
914itis   I am shopping for new paint. 1- whats a good bra...   May 2 2013, 09:00 AM
a914622   If the spots are small enough or there is a small ...   May 2 2013, 09:27 AM
914itis   Any one heard of LUSID technology paint?   May 2 2013, 10:24 AM
bulitt   You need to call Scotty. And here is my guess why...   May 2 2013, 11:32 AM
scotty b   First off, when you go in with a code for these ca...   May 2 2013, 12:36 PM
ThePaintedMan   First off, when you go in with a code for these c...   May 2 2013, 12:47 PM
bulitt   First off, when you go in with a code for these c...   May 2 2013, 02:29 PM
scotty b   Shopline is only available through the " plat...   May 2 2013, 06:52 PM
scotty b   double dirka   May 2 2013, 06:53 PM
914itis   double dirka :confused:   May 2 2013, 07:05 PM
scotty b   double dirka :confused: interweb connection h...   May 2 2013, 07:38 PM
914itis   Update I manage to sand down to the paint and rep...   May 4 2013, 07:09 PM
914itis   More   May 4 2013, 07:11 PM
bulitt   Yup. the clear should come out fine. Be careful s...   May 4 2013, 07:15 PM
Andyrew   Can you put a florescent above and take another sh...   May 4 2013, 07:48 PM
914itis   Yes it is the clear only.   May 4 2013, 07:51 PM
scotty b   that Is orange peel. Wet sand it. If you want to b...   May 4 2013, 07:56 PM
Andyrew   that Is orange peel. Wet sand it. If you want to ...   May 5 2013, 11:38 AM
914itis   Thanks all, will start wet sanding in 24 hours and...   May 4 2013, 08:15 PM
914itis   Scotty, What color code was this? you posted this ...   May 5 2013, 11:02 AM
scotty b   Scotty, What color code was this? you posted this...   May 5 2013, 02:40 PM
914itis   Scotty, What color code was this? you posted thi...   May 5 2013, 08:06 PM
914itis   Another 4 Hours of wet sand today. that makes it a...   May 6 2013, 08:52 PM
scotty b   2 DO NOT buff those spots before doing this. now...   May 7 2013, 06:00 AM
914itis   Thanks, is there a time frame to buff after wetsan...   May 7 2013, 06:05 AM
scotty b   Thanks, is there a time frame to buff after wetsa...   May 7 2013, 11:51 AM
914itis   Update After gathering everyone's profession...   May 14 2013, 09:34 AM
scotty b   :beer2:   May 14 2013, 06:13 PM
rick 918-S   Glad it worked out for you.   May 14 2013, 06:17 PM
914itis   Final product.   May 21 2013, 06:52 PM
ThePaintedMan   Way to go Paul! You did it right by repainting...   May 21 2013, 07:04 PM
914itis   Thanks, a bit of patience, and yes I learned a lot...   May 21 2013, 07:20 PM
914itis   iPhone and glare from the hot sun today. Scotty w...   May 21 2013, 07:33 PM
76-914   That really looks good Paul. :poke: Is your son ...   May 21 2013, 07:54 PM
914itis   That really looks good Paul. :poke: Is your son...   May 21 2013, 08:43 PM
Andyrew   Looks great!   May 21 2013, 10:16 PM
saigon71   Paul: Must have been frustrating as hell going th...   May 22 2013, 06:27 AM
jimkelly   good paint video - epoxy primer, 2k primer, base c...   Sep 10 2013, 09:10 AM


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