2013 Parade: Went over my Score Sheet, Some errors that I did not contest... Options

[orthobiz]

I am a half-year 914 guy, the car spends a lot of time in winter storage here in Northern Michigan. I bought my 1974 1.8 in 2007, helped along by the generous advice of 914world members.

Now the Parade is only 40 miles from my house, I am thinking of entering the concours.

Immediate questions involve the completely unoriginal radio, wheels that have been repainted, and front and rear sways that I had installed when Brad Mayeur did the original work on it.

Otherwise it is a very clean car. I am wondering if I am ineligible for a "survivor" judging because of these mods?

My original thread with pics:

http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...c=69564&hl=

Thanks for your help.

Paul

[tod914]

Paul they are abrasives, but by hand you can control the pressure easier. They will, if rubbed too hard, remove paint. You would have to work at it a bit to see the paint come up. These are no where near what a compound would be. Maybe test in the trunk area first, so you can see what results they yield. If you want to be more cautious, you can use one of the foam applicator pads by hand instead of the microfiber pad. I found with the foam pads, you just seem to be pushing product around without really accomplishing much. The foam pads are good for the 1Z wax and vinyl products though. Here's links for some of the products;

http://www.p21s.com/products/bis_pc.html ps21 paintwork cleanser + the mequires scratch remover (the Mequires you can get any where)

http://www.p21s.com/products/bis_ps.html I used this to clean up the chrome on the bumper, followed by a coat of ps21 wax. My bumpers had stubborn grime on them, even after washing. This soap worked extremely well. Will even clean up minor rust pitting. Doubt you need it for your car.

The PS21 body shampoo is also a good product, once your car is waxed. I ended up using Palmolive dish soap to try to cut through the grime. The dish soap will remove the old wax, where the body shampoo won't.

http://www.detailersdomain.com/ carries most of the products. I believe autogeek might have more of these that I mentioned here. Never used them, but they seem to have a much larger selection of products.

http://www.detailersdomain.com/1Z-einszett...litur_p_73.html The polish I used after the PS21 paint cleanser

http://www.detailersdomain.com/1Z-einszett...z-Wax_p_72.html
initial coat of wax on whole car, including trunks, jams, etc. This wax lasts longer, but doesn't have as much depth as the PS21 carnuba wax

http://www.p21s.com/products/bis_cw.html PS21 wax used on the exterior panels on top of the 1z. Your likely removing more of the base wax by adding on another layer of wax. So probably not necessary to use the 1Z wax on the exterior. I like the results of it in the trunks though.

http://www.detailersdomain.com/1Z-einszett...aner_p_106.html was one of the products used to clean the vinyl. Followed up with
http://www.detailersdomain.com/1Z-einszett...tant_p_211.html vinyl and rubber care.

I was real happy with the 1Z products. A lot of guys swear by the 303 aerospace protectant. I haven't tried it, so I can't really comment on it.

Here's the clay bar. http://www.detailersdomain.com/Uber-Blue-Clay-Bar_p_164.html Any on the shelf detail spray will work well with it. Word of caution don't use the Mequires clay kit. It's too sticky. Will leave a residue. The Mother's kit I tried, worked almost as well as the Uber clay bar. The Uber I found glided easier on the paint surface. The paint surface will be a little streaking once your done claying, but that will all come clean once you start with the ps21 paint cleaner. Before you clay, run your hand across the paint surface. You'll get a lot of resistance. Try it after. You'll be amazed how smooth it becomes.

Tires and bumper tops I used the Griots rubber prep http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/rubber...sortby=ourPicks
This does a great job of removing the brown stains on the tire rubber.
I've been using their vinyl and rubber dressing, but not completely satisfied with it. You have to use a very small amount and kind of buff it in so it doesn't leave an uneven finish. It's nice if applied correctly, but sounds like the 303 would be the better choice from what I hear.

I would strongly suggest not to use the PS21 Total Auto Wash. It can leave an orange stain. Figured I'd let you know just in case your tempted to try it. All of the other PS21 products I used, worked great.

Too many products to choose from these days. I'm sure anyone of the guys in this forum can give you a different product list , and achieve comparable end results.

Hope that helps. Looks like your off to a great start.

[Pat Garvey]

Paul they are abrasives, but by hand you can control the pressure easier. They will, if rubbed too hard, remove paint. You would have to work at it a bit to see the paint come up. These are no where near what a compound would be. Maybe test in the trunk area first, so you can see what results they yield. If you want to be more cautious, you can use one of the foam applicator pads by hand instead of the microfiber pad. I found with the foam pads, you just seem to be pushing product around without really accomplishing much. The foam pads are good for the 1Z wax and vinyl products though. Here's links for some of the products;

http://www.p21s.com/products/bis_pc.html ps21 paintwork cleanser + the mequires scratch remover (the Mequires you can get any where)

http://www.p21s.com/products/bis_ps.html I used this to clean up the chrome on the bumper, followed by a coat of ps21 wax. My bumpers had stubborn grime on them, even after washing. This soap worked extremely well. Will even clean up minor rust pitting. Doubt you need it for your car.

The PS21 body shampoo is also a good product, once your car is waxed. I ended up using Palmolive dish soap to try to cut through the grime. The dish soap will remove the old wax, where the body shampoo won't.

http://www.detailersdomain.com/ carries most of the products. I believe autogeek might have more of these that I mentioned here. Never used them, but they seem to have a much larger selection of products.

http://www.detailersdomain.com/1Z-einszett...litur_p_73.html The polish I used after the PS21 paint cleanser

http://www.detailersdomain.com/1Z-einszett...z-Wax_p_72.html
initial coat of wax on whole car, including trunks, jams, etc. This wax lasts longer, but doesn't have as much depth as the PS21 carnuba wax

http://www.p21s.com/products/bis_cw.html PS21 wax used on the exterior panels on top of the 1z. Your likely removing more of the base wax by adding on another layer of wax. So probably not necessary to use the 1Z wax on the exterior. I like the results of it in the trunks though.

http://www.detailersdomain.com/1Z-einszett...aner_p_106.html was one of the products used to clean the vinyl. Followed up with
http://www.detailersdomain.com/1Z-einszett...tant_p_211.html vinyl and rubber care.

I was real happy with the 1Z products. A lot of guys swear by the 303 aerospace protectant. I haven't tried it, so I can't really comment on it.

Here's the clay bar. http://www.detailersdomain.com/Uber-Blue-Clay-Bar_p_164.html Any on the shelf detail spray will work well with it. Word of caution don't use the Mequires clay kit. It's too sticky. Will leave a residue. The Mother's kit I tried, worked almost as well as the Uber clay bar. The Uber I found glided easier on the paint surface. The paint surface will be a little streaking once your done claying, but that will all come clean once you start with the ps21 paint cleaner. Before you clay, run your hand across the paint surface. You'll get a lot of resistance. Try it after. You'll be amazed how smooth it becomes.

Tires and bumper tops I used the Griots rubber prep http://www.griotsgarage.com/product/rubber...sortby=ourPicks
This does a great job of removing the brown stains on the tire rubber.
I've been using their vinyl and rubber dressing, but not completely satisfied with it. You have to use a very small amount and kind of buff it in so it doesn't leave an uneven finish. It's nice if applied correctly, but sounds like the 303 would be the better choice from what I hear.

I would strongly suggest not to use the PS21 Total Auto Wash. It can leave an orange stain. Figured I'd let you know just in case your tempted to try it. All of the other PS21 products I used, worked great.

Too many products to choose from these days. I'm sure anyone of the guys in this forum can give you a different product list , and achieve comparable end results.

Hope that helps. Looks like your off to a great start.

Good experiences Tod!