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| john_g |
May 15 2013, 07:29 PM
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I'm getting ready to rebuild my 2.0 and am considering going to either 2056, or maybe even up to 2270. What are the downsides or problems associated with going 2270, if any?
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| r_towle |
May 16 2013, 07:35 AM
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Djet can handle more displacement, just not more stroke.
Up to 2.4 liter as far as I know. BUT I would suggest if heat is another one of your concerns, stick with the 2056. Bigger displacement of much more than that may require external oil cooling and if you stroke it, it will require a new induction system. Carbs run maybe 1k all in. EFI could be 2k all in, and I have not seen a decent bolt on application for these motors, so you will be doing custom tuning, and custom wiring etc. Rich |
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May 16 2013, 09:52 AM
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Thanks, Rich. I must be a little slow, can you clarify something for me? You're saying that the D-jet can handle it, but will need custom tuning, wiring, etc. to the tune of an additional 2K, right?
And the 2056, doesn't require major modifications to the EFI? Djet can handle more displacement, just not more stroke. Up to 2.4 liter as far as I know. BUT I would suggest if heat is another one of your concerns, stick with the 2056. Bigger displacement of much more than that may require external oil cooling and if you stroke it, it will require a new induction system. Carbs run maybe 1k all in. EFI could be 2k all in, and I have not seen a decent bolt on application for these motors, so you will be doing custom tuning, and custom wiring etc. Rich |
| r_towle |
May 16 2013, 11:33 AM
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Thanks, Rich. I must be a little slow, can you clarify something for me? You're saying that the D-jet can handle it, but will need custom tuning, wiring, etc. to the tune of an additional 2K, right? And the 2056, doesn't require major modifications to the EFI? Djet can handle more displacement, just not more stroke. Up to 2.4 liter as far as I know. BUT I would suggest if heat is another one of your concerns, stick with the 2056. Bigger displacement of much more than that may require external oil cooling and if you stroke it, it will require a new induction system. Carbs run maybe 1k all in. EFI could be 2k all in, and I have not seen a decent bolt on application for these motors, so you will be doing custom tuning, and custom wiring etc. Rich Djet can go up to 2.4 liter with the 71mm stroke (stock) crank. That is 103mm pistons. It cannot deal with a longer stroke. for the 2270, that is a stroker motor with 96mm pistons and a 78mm crank (stock is 71mm) That motor (the one you are asking about) requires a custom EFI system with new wiring etc...in the 2k range and there is no off the shelf system available, so you need to know what you are doing, or hire someone who does. 2056 is your best bet. both the 2270 and the 2.4 liter stock stroke require external oil coolers. Both motors are tuned and require more maintenance than a 2056 will ever require. One thing to think about. McMark (an admin here) has a shop names Original Customs and he will build a 2056 for you that is reliable. rich rich |
john_g 2.0 Rebuild Advice Needed May 15 2013, 07:29 PM
r_towle More work, worse rod ratio than a 2056.
Higher cha... May 15 2013, 07:40 PM
john_g Why would there be a higher chance of ring wear? I... May 15 2013, 10:49 PM
Jake Raby Rod ratio is no worse if the engine is designed co... May 15 2013, 08:59 PM
john_g Jake,
Isn't heat an issue with the 2270, as we... May 15 2013, 10:48 PM
john_g Another issue, in addition to the questions I have... May 15 2013, 11:52 PM
KELTY360
Another issue, in addition to the questions I hav... May 16 2013, 02:39 PM
john_g I'm running the stock EFI system.
Another i... May 16 2013, 05:18 PM
porschefile2010 From my experience and having stuffed one engine a... May 16 2013, 12:16 AM
rwilner FWIW -- I went through this decision process last ... May 16 2013, 06:10 AM
john_g Thanks, Rich, I get it now.
And yeah, I've ha... May 16 2013, 05:20 PM
AE354803
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r_towle
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Porschef If I may chime in... I replaced my defunct 2.0 wit... May 16 2013, 10:47 AM
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john_g
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Jake Raby
Its been over a decade since we had any thermal ... May 17 2013, 02:36 PM
john_g
[quote name='john_g' post='1865450' date='May 17 ... May 17 2013, 05:30 PM
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r_towle I recall some testing that showed the intake runne... May 18 2013, 01:15 PM
rwilner
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914_teener
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Jake Raby
Of course you were. May 18 2013, 01:42 PM
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Jake Raby
Not everyone needs to follow you jake, we all hav... May 20 2013, 07:43 PM
gothspeed To the OP, a 2056 or 2275 each have their virtues ... May 18 2013, 08:11 PM
rhodyguy 1. dave hunt had nightmares trying to get even a m... May 22 2013, 10:08 AM![]() ![]() |
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