 75 LJet will not fire, PHASE 2: still not starting...Phase 3: not idling, PHASE 4: fine tune! |
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| malcolm2 |
 Jul 9 2013, 08:09 PM
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Advanced Member  Group: Members Posts: 2,749 Joined: 31-May 11 From: Nashville Member No.: 13,139 Region Association: South East States 
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My 1st post of the same subject
Summary: rescued 75 with L-jet: HAM repaired heads, 9550 cam from Type 4 store, All engine harnesses from Bowlsby, 96mm pistons from type 4 store (1911cc), Injectors cleaned by Cruzin Performance...(twice), engine sat for 12 mths while I worked on rust from sitting for 10 years, etc... A couple weekends ago I went thru EXTENSIVE troubleshooting with Timothy_ND29 (huge thank you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) ), but the engine would not fire. That is the above link.... We ended up determining that my fresh injectors were clogged cause they sat for 12+ months. CruzinPerformance "woke them up" last week and they arrived back here today. I don't know what else to test: EVERYTHING operates, EVERYTHING: 1. 35+ psi fuel pressure 2. Starter turns engine with the key. 3. Noid lights at all injectors LIGHT 4. Spark plugs at all plugs SPARK 5. Injectors squirt (tested 1 and 2) 6. Valves actually move (I had to know it the damn thing was moving on the inside) Here is the big one: After installing the fresh injectors, I did hear a slight fire, or poot of a backfire. Then nothing. I took the air box off and sprayed starting fluid in the intake while trying to start and STILL NOTHING. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hissyfit.gif) Question 1: How much spark do I need? Question 2: How much squirt do I need? Both happened, but they seemed weak, or small. Need more help, I feel like the doctor that left a sponge in his patient.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
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| TheCabinetmaker |
Jul 10 2013, 06:19 PM
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I drive my car everyday Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 8-May 03 From: Tulsa, Ok. Member No.: 666 |
Forget the mark you made. Where does the rotor point? At a plug tower? Which one?
Valves are too tight, bit should still run. |
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| malcolm2 |
Jul 10 2013, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(The Cabinetmaker @ Jul 10 2013, 07:19 PM)  Forget the mark you made. Where does the rotor point? At a plug tower? Which one? Valves are too tight, bit should still run. Pointing between the 2 "towers" on the passenger side. That is very close to where we THOUGHT TDC would be. As I shine a bright light in the hole I can see that I wrote on the blades and I see a big "O". So I am close. another 1/4 inch of fan turn and that will be it and the button will be pointing at the right rear tower. I made the right front my temporary #1 last night. |
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malcolm2 75 LJet will not fire Jul 9 2013, 08:09 PM
jim_hoyland Is the brown wire from the dual relay grounded ? Jul 9 2013, 08:14 PM
malcolm2
Is the brown wire from the dual relay grounded ?
... Jul 9 2013, 08:23 PM timothy_nd28 Sounds like the FI is doing its job. However the t... Jul 9 2013, 08:15 PM malcolm2
Sounds like the FI is doing its job. However the ... Jul 9 2013, 08:20 PM malcolm2
Sounds like the FI is doing its job. However the ... Jul 9 2013, 08:24 PM davesprinkle
Sounds like the FI is doing its job. However the... Jul 9 2013, 08:57 PM timothy_nd28 No need, your FI is working. We went thru the whol... Jul 9 2013, 08:28 PM malcolm2
No need, your FI is working. We went thru the who... Jul 9 2013, 08:42 PM Mblizzard I had a similar problem many years ago. It turned ... Jul 9 2013, 08:43 PM malcolm2
I had a similar problem many years ago. It turned... Jul 9 2013, 08:45 PM Mblizzard
I had a similar problem many years ago. It turne... Jul 9 2013, 09:18 PM timothy_nd28 K, can you remove the valve cover and wiggle the r... Jul 9 2013, 08:47 PM malcolm2
K, can you remove the valve cover and wiggle the ... Jul 9 2013, 08:57 PM malcolm2
[quote name='timothy_nd28' post='1892665' date='J... Jul 9 2013, 09:13 PM timothy_nd28
[quote name='timothy_nd28' post='1892665' date='J... Jul 9 2013, 09:17 PM malcolm2
You should have valve lash wiggle on both rockers... Jul 9 2013, 09:25 PM The Cabinetmaker
[quote name='timothy_nd28' post='1892665' date='J... Jul 10 2013, 09:06 AM timothy_nd28 Don't put anything into the spark plug hole Jul 9 2013, 09:22 PM Mblizzard Verify that you #1 viewed from sitting in the car... Jul 9 2013, 09:28 PM timothy_nd28 I find it easy to put the passenger rear wheel on ... Jul 9 2013, 09:28 PM malcolm2
I find it easy to put the passenger rear wheel on... Jul 9 2013, 09:42 PM timothy_nd28 It's dangerous, anything you put in that spark... Jul 9 2013, 09:52 PM malcolm2
It's dangerous, anything you put in that spar... Jul 9 2013, 09:57 PM malcolm2
[quote name='timothy_nd28' post='1892703' date='J... Jul 9 2013, 10:07 PM timothy_nd28 Never mind the position of the dizzy's rotor f... Jul 9 2013, 10:07 PM malcolm2
Never mind the position of the dizzy's rotor ... Jul 9 2013, 10:14 PM timothy_nd28 Excellent, with the red mark between the v knotch ... Jul 9 2013, 10:23 PM malcolm2
Excellent, with the red mark between the v knotch... Jul 9 2013, 10:26 PM malcolm2
Excellent, with the red mark between the v knotc... Jul 9 2013, 10:50 PM timothy_nd28 Spin the dizzy so it's pointing at the number ... Jul 9 2013, 10:28 PM timothy_nd28 Which way did you turn the distributor to align th... Jul 9 2013, 10:52 PM malcolm2
Which way did you turn the distributor to align t... Jul 9 2013, 10:56 PM timothy_nd28 Try moving the dizzy counter clockwise a smidge an... Jul 9 2013, 11:01 PM malcolm2
Try moving the dizzy counter clockwise a smidge a... Jul 9 2013, 11:09 PM timothy_nd28 Lets start over. Line up the red mark with the v k... Jul 9 2013, 11:12 PM malcolm2
Lets start over. Line up the red mark with the v ... Jul 9 2013, 11:12 PM malcolm2
Lets start over. Line up the red mark with the v... Jul 9 2013, 11:26 PM Bob L. :popcorn: Jul 9 2013, 11:21 PM timothy_nd28 Can you post a pic of the rotor, so we can see whi... Jul 9 2013, 11:28 PM malcolm2
Can you post a pic of the rotor, so we can see wh... Jul 9 2013, 11:35 PM timothy_nd28 Ok, put the cap on and put only the number one plu... Jul 9 2013, 11:38 PM malcolm2
Ok, put the cap on and put only the number one pl... Jul 9 2013, 11:44 PM timothy_nd28 With your volt meter, set it to resistance. Measur... Jul 9 2013, 11:49 PM malcolm2
With your volt meter, set it to resistance. Measu... Jul 10 2013, 12:00 AM timothy_nd28 The vacuum can may be limiting the rotation. Try m... Jul 10 2013, 12:03 AM malcolm2
The vacuum can may be limiting the rotation. Try ... Jul 10 2013, 12:12 AM timothy_nd28 I'm sorry, I'm not thinking here. The roto... Jul 10 2013, 12:16 AM malcolm2
I'm sorry, I'm not thinking here. The rot... Jul 10 2013, 12:29 AM timothy_nd28 I'm turning in for the night, lets pick this u... Jul 10 2013, 12:31 AM malcolm2
I'm turning in for the night, lets pick this ... Jul 10 2013, 12:33 AM timothy_nd28 After re-reading part of this thread I made a assu... Jul 10 2013, 08:30 AM malcolm2
After re-reading part of this thread I made a ass... Jul 10 2013, 12:04 PM Java2570 :agree:
I just went through a similar issue wi... Jul 10 2013, 09:31 AM malcolm2
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I just went through a similar issue w... Jul 10 2013, 11:50 AM Java2570
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I just went through a similar issue ... Jul 10 2013, 12:23 PM stugray
No, you should not need to pull the drive gear.
... Jul 10 2013, 11:14 AM malcolm2 I have come up with a way to manually rotate the e... Jul 10 2013, 06:08 PM timothy_nd28 Number one plug wire still on the right rear tower... Jul 10 2013, 07:08 PM malcolm2
Number one plug wire still on the right rear towe... Jul 10 2013, 07:17 PM The Cabinetmaker
Number one plug wire still on the right rear tow... Jul 10 2013, 08:04 PM Bob L.
[quote name='malcolm2' post='1893198' date='Jul 1... Jul 10 2013, 08:09 PM malcolm2
[quote name='malcolm2' post='1893198' date='Jul 1... Jul 10 2013, 08:13 PM stugray When you think you are at TDC based on valves, che... Jul 10 2013, 07:10 PM malcolm2
When you think you are at TDC based on valves, ch... Jul 10 2013, 07:39 PM timothy_nd28 Move the number one at the right rear tower and st... Jul 10 2013, 07:50 PM malcolm2
Move the number one at the right rear tower and s... Jul 10 2013, 08:09 PM malcolm2 should I go ahead and adjust the valves on the dri... Jul 10 2013, 07:56 PM timothy_nd28 Are you using aluminum or chrome moly pushrods? Jul 10 2013, 07:59 PM malcolm2
Are you using aluminum or chrome moly pushrods?
... Jul 10 2013, 08:29 PM The Cabinetmaker
Purchased awhile back from the type 4 store and... Jul 11 2013, 07:26 AM malcolm2
Purchased awhile back from the type 4 store an... Jul 11 2013, 09:06 AM Mblizzard I will be traveling to Nashville next Tuesday to g... Jul 10 2013, 08:30 PM malcolm2
I will be traveling to Nashville next Tuesday to ... Jul 10 2013, 08:35 PM malcolm2 Timothy, what's on you mind to do next? Jul 10 2013, 08:48 PM timothy_nd28 If you truly found TDC, I do like the idea of pull... Jul 10 2013, 08:59 PM malcolm2
If you truly found TDC, I do like the idea of pul... Jul 10 2013, 09:09 PM timothy_nd28 I'll be honest, every time I split the case, I... Jul 10 2013, 09:19 PM malcolm2
I'll be honest, every time I split the case, ... Jul 10 2013, 09:54 PM timothy_nd28 The intake valve should be last to move before tdc... Jul 10 2013, 09:27 PM malcolm2
The intake valve should be last to move before td... Jul 10 2013, 09:31 PM stugray I just went through this entire process.
Can you ... Jul 10 2013, 09:39 PM timothy_nd28 You may need to pry the hold down bracket while pu... Jul 10 2013, 09:59 PM stugray Read my post above first, and the link then IF tha... Jul 10 2013, 10:00 PM malcolm2
Read my post above first, and the link then IF th... Jul 11 2013, 05:50 AM The Cabinetmaker There is no white mark unless someone else made on... Jul 11 2013, 06:51 AM malcolm2
There is no white mark unless someone else made o... Jul 11 2013, 09:02 AM timothy_nd28 :agree: Jul 11 2013, 07:03 AM The Cabinetmaker Ok, I understand. you will be ok. just remember th... Jul 11 2013, 09:12 AM stugray
Ok, so there might not be white paint on the mar... Jul 11 2013, 09:14 AM stugray I just did a search and found some say that the ma... Jul 11 2013, 09:38 AM The Cabinetmaker If it were my old ass, I'd just go with option... Jul 11 2013, 09:44 AM Java2570 Factory notch will be at the top of the trans @ TD... Jul 11 2013, 09:47 AM malcolm2 So to verify TDC, I need to look for or feel for t... Jul 11 2013, 10:17 AM stugray Confusion resolved: I have the notch (visible at t... Jul 11 2013, 10:27 AM stugray
I followed Jake's video and installed the dr... Jul 11 2013, 10:31 AM Bob L. Malcolm,
Have you tried the #1 wire on the right r... Jul 11 2013, 10:54 AM Bartlett 914 Did you ever check your compression? Jul 11 2013, 11:02 AM |
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