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| siverson |
Jul 12 2004, 04:00 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,464 Joined: 5-May 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 654 Region Association: Southern California
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I spent the weekend at the NASA event at Willow Springs. It was pretty fun, and a very fast track - 125 on front stretch, about 105 or so on the back stretch. Turn 8/9 right at about 90/100 mph. Yowzers. I had never driven on that fast of corners before.
It think it was about 105 degrees out too, and my car started to get too hot in the afternoon sessions. I actually had to stop the 20 minute run sessions early. I was quite surprised by this, as I had previously been concerned that the car is running too cool on the freeways. Hmmm... I'm running a 3.6 with a front mounted Mocal cooler that's 20x6x2 or so. Another 914 there had a 4.0 (from a 3.6) with the factory C2 cooler under the rear trunk AND a front mounted cooler that was 16x6x2 or so. I think my DME programming might still be a little off (too lean) contributing to the heat. I'll have to check it out. Does anyone have any real world experience with the GT engine lids? Do they really make a cooling difference? Anything else to consider besides fuel/timing and engine lid before I start cutting away for a second cooler somewhere? -Steve Attached image(s)
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| siverson |
Jul 12 2004, 08:08 PM
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,464 Joined: 5-May 03 From: San Diego, CA Member No.: 654 Region Association: Southern California
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> how high were the temps getting?
245 and then I went in. 245 isn't crazy high, but prior to this weekend I hadn't seen higher than 210. On the freeway just cruising along it'll drop to 190-200 (right where the thermostat opens). -Really- surprised me how much harder the engine/oil cooler was working on the track. > re: fan Yeah, I'm not sure if a fan would help or hurt. I know temps do climb when just idling in traffic (up to 210 or so), but they go right back down once some air flow starts moving through the cooler again. A fan would help in this situation, but on the track you're always going at least 40 or so... > re: intake sealing the exhaust is pretty well sealed, but the input isn't. There is some room for air to "leak out". Another guy at the track suggested this. I'll look into it. > re: Looks like a Damn Bus sitting next to that SWEET GT Look Car. Ha! I know. I didn't really notice it at the time but that picture really emphasizes things, huh? > re: exit air flow I'm venting via a shroud through the trunk floor. Right now the exhaust area is about the same size as the intake area. It would be pretty easy and non detrimental to open this open more, so I think I will just for the sake of it (and it'll save another .5 pound or so!) Hey - BTW, just for fun I put my car on the tech scales they had setup and it came in at 2184#. Lower than I would have thought for my porky 3.6 car... Weight +'s: - 3.6, 915 transmission, front mounted cooler - GT reinforcement kit - Brad Meyeur longitudinal kit (~50 lbs? I dunno, it's heavy though!) - about 10 ft of tubing reinforcement (front and rear) - 1/2 tank of gas Weight -'s: - two seats, but otherwise no interior (no backpad, door panels, no carpet, no knee pad, no sound deadening of any kind) (all windows were in) - front and rear carbon fiber lids - no under coating - no top, no spare, no tools (all left track side) That was ready to go weight, just without the driver. I was guessing it would have been closer to 2300#+s... ? Anyways, just hijacking my own thread. Thanks for the input on the oil temp problem... Hey, is the guy that was with Scott's Porsche here? Thanks for letting my borrow some of your tools! -Steve |
siverson Pictures from weekend @ Willow Springs Jul 12 2004, 04:00 PM
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Howard Steve, nice car, nice pictures. You are my hero..... Jul 12 2004, 04:33 PM
andys I was there spectating on Sunday. A friend didn... Jul 12 2004, 04:34 PM
Martin Baker Looks like a Damn Bus sitting next to that SWEET G... Jul 12 2004, 04:59 PM
SLITS
brant I don't know that a front mounted cooler would... Jul 12 2004, 05:14 PM
drew365 My car had an under rear trunk cooler and fan and ... Jul 12 2004, 05:51 PM
campbellcj Steve - glad to hear you had a fun day. I'm r... Jul 12 2004, 10:34 PM
siverson > What kind of ducting setup does your cooler have... Jul 13 2004, 01:18 AM
siverson Cooler while being installed: Jul 13 2004, 01:22 AM
siverson Cooler shroud: Jul 13 2004, 01:22 AM
Jack Olsen It's not easy to keep a 3.6 cool. The cars th... Jul 13 2004, 02:38 AM
1973914 Saw a 3.6 track-only car that had 2 coolers that s... Jul 13 2004, 06:25 AM
SLITS "That's the problem! Where I am supposed t... Jul 13 2004, 06:39 AM
drew365 Welcome to the board Jack Olsen, co-winner of the ... Jul 13 2004, 08:00 AM
campbellcj Hey, what the heck is Jack "Mr. 911" Olsen doing o... Jul 13 2004, 08:43 PM
campbellcj Actually in looking at your pic, I realized my coo... Jul 13 2004, 08:49 PM
Jack Olsen
maf914 ... Jul 14 2004, 12:22 PM
john rogers When Chris Burns was racing his RSR motored 914 se... Jul 14 2004, 12:59 PM
Racer Chris The lack of an air dam definitely hurts you, big t... Jul 14 2004, 05:19 PM
TimT fwiw heres how I mounted the cooler in my 911 Jul 14 2004, 05:52 PM
TimT phthit Jul 14 2004, 05:52 PM
siverson Thanks for all the good tips. My to do list is gro... Jul 14 2004, 05:54 PM
siverson Yeah, I'm sure it's better to vent the air... Jul 14 2004, 05:55 PM
TimT
seanery Troutman Jul 14 2004, 06:16 PM
campbellcj Here's a few (kinda lame) pics of my cooler se... Jul 14 2004, 11:13 PM
campbellcj It's hard to see in this pic (black on black) ... Jul 14 2004, 11:17 PM
campbellcj Oops forgot the pic Jul 14 2004, 11:18 PM
TimT Here is my front end set up.. I formed a piece of ... Jul 17 2004, 07:45 PM
TimT forgot the pic Jul 17 2004, 07:46 PM
Howard 3 Dumb questions
Shouldn't the oil get to at l... Jul 17 2004, 11:51 PM
campbellcj I dunno all the answers to your great questions Ho... Jul 18 2004, 12:28 AM
Howard The web is a dangerous thing...
Motor oil "facts"... Jul 18 2004, 01:59 AM
J P Stein On a 911 motor, the temp sensor is located at the ... Jul 18 2004, 09:28 AM
siverson An update for everyone who was wondering what the ... Aug 16 2004, 02:54 PM
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