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| wndsnd |
Aug 23 2013, 08:28 PM
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You wanted a horse, but got a goat. Nobody wants a goat.... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,861 Joined: 12-February 12 From: North Shore, MA Member No.: 14,124 Region Association: North East States |
I'm see prices of $150, 350, and 500+ for new sway bars Just wondering, once on the car will there be a difference in feel? I really only want to spend $200.00, want adjustability, and 19mm for road only. Your opinions please. Make some sense out of this for me. Thanks John |
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Aug 24 2013, 09:27 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
The 914 was 13 or 15 mm. I don't remember which as I gave it away. Bruce Stone can measure it for you plus it is stamped into one end.
I have a stock bar on the front of my six conversion (2.7L) with 140 lb rear springs, Bilsteins w/ adjustable perches on the rear and Koni Reds up front (911 struts). It corners nicely. I do have a 19 mm bar (911 front) that I will replace the stock one with someday. I also have a rear bar and have not installed it ... maybe some day. Car is not tracked. The best setup I ever put on a 914 was an SC front end complete with under body sway bar. Even though it was 22 or so mm, the way it is attached there is not as much deflection so the full rate is not realized. Flat as could be in the twisties. No need for adjustable drop links on a street car other than making sure the bar is not preloaded in rest position. Just a costly, unnecessary option. It's a torsion bar and the rate is determined by the diameter of the bar, length of the arms. Most importantly, the bar is most effective when it is horizontal to the ground plane and the arms are vertical and equal (bar not preloaded). Most effective place to tie in the drop links is at the ball joint for maximum available deflection with suspension movement, but that generally doesn't happen except on full race cars. Being able to adjust the arm length and keeping the drop links in a vertical plane is most effective, i.e., longer the arm for a given bar diameter, more torsional resistance. On the race cars, we had multiple attachment points on the arm and commensurate attachment points on the "A" arm so that the arm could be lengthened while keeping the drop links vertical. We had a rear bar set up in the same manner. On some tracks it was used and on others, we disconnected it. And yes, we used Detroit Locker rear ends. I'm done! |
wndsnd Front Sway Bars Aug 23 2013, 08:28 PM
pilothyer Night and day difference.........drive one without... Aug 23 2013, 08:52 PM
Trekkor Install the largest you can afford.
31mm here.
... Aug 23 2013, 09:05 PM
wndsnd
Install the largest you can afford.
31mm here.
... Aug 23 2013, 09:32 PM
shoguneagle Trekkor is a racing nut who is having fun!... Aug 23 2013, 09:31 PM
Dave_Darling The more expensive ones will move more smoothly, a... Aug 23 2013, 09:47 PM
Trekkor yes, sorry.
For a road only, not tracked or autoc... Aug 23 2013, 09:50 PM
r_towle 31mm?
Did you go get a piece of pipe from Home De... Aug 23 2013, 09:57 PM
chad newton
31mm?
Did you go get a piece of pipe from Home D... Aug 23 2013, 10:01 PM
Trekkor I wish :)
Smart Racing Products ( now Jerry Woods... Aug 23 2013, 10:04 PM
scott_in_nh Hi John, I think I gave you my 2 cents on this whe... Aug 24 2013, 07:31 AM
wndsnd This is what I have.
The front A arms have the ta... Aug 24 2013, 08:16 AM
r_towle So, if you are using this as a street car, 19mm is... Aug 24 2013, 09:11 AM
Racer Chris The most economical choice is a 19mm basic Weltmei... Aug 24 2013, 11:18 AM
wndsnd
The most economical choice is a 19mm basic Weltme... Aug 24 2013, 11:54 AM
Racer Chris
Everyone agrees on the front bar, no-one ever tal... Aug 24 2013, 06:28 PM
sixnotfour don't forget the old H&H sway bars Aug 24 2013, 11:04 PM
Racer Chris
don't forget the old H&H sway bars
They ... Aug 25 2013, 09:37 AM
gandalf_025 Hey John:
Good to see you are working on the car ... Aug 25 2013, 08:36 AM
wndsnd
Hey John:
Good to see you are working on the car... Aug 25 2013, 08:46 AM
sixnotfour Automotion sold em out west before Weltmeister cam... Aug 25 2013, 10:32 AM
Eric_Shea A stock 15mm bar is my favorite for a street drive... Aug 25 2013, 06:31 PM
wndsnd
just bought this stock set up off evil bay
15... Aug 25 2013, 10:02 PM
Eric_Shea Once you get it installed you'll be scratching... Aug 25 2013, 11:35 PM
Racer Chris
I think that's a good value with all of the b... Aug 26 2013, 08:00 AM
HalfMoon I wonder what size would be good for my sb convert... Aug 27 2013, 10:02 PM
wndsnd I have not received the bar or supports yet, but I... Aug 28 2013, 02:24 PM
Trekkor Here's what comes with the Smart/JWE front bar... Aug 28 2013, 02:37 PM
wndsnd Gees,
Just when I am starting to feel good about ... Aug 28 2013, 02:49 PM
Eric_Shea Yeah... that 31mm bar outta be "sweet-on-da-s... Aug 28 2013, 04:03 PM![]() ![]() |
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