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2005 Venue Part II, shit! |
Howard |
Jul 20 2004, 12:08 PM
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Incontin(g)ent Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,785 Joined: 24-July 03 From: Westlake Village, CA Member No.: 943 Region Association: None |
Ron, love you, and think your poll on the tech forum sucks. Asking "How far would you drive to have exclusive 914 club track use for one day?" would probably get a far different response. I know you and toast want to do an AX and and have it closer to your homes, so find it and we will come.
But it does show where the power comes from in the club. The bay area guys ARE the club, and will dictate what we can or can't do anyway; venue, sponsors, even using the 914world.com name. I was going to post this as a response on the main forum, but will keep it here. None of the Bay area 'leaders' have contributed to the planning, or even visited the forum as far as I know. I will not use my credit card for deposits to secure the track or accomodations and will not proceed until we all agree AND get admin's approval on how, when, and where to hold this event. Even if all this happens, I will not sign the application for track or AX rental. The unlimited liability exposure is too scary. And personally, I would rather not have track or AX at all, just a fun few days. I get in plenty of track time, and after running on the track AX is a lot less satisfying. Here's the unposted post: Where are we going here? Brad and Dave, please visit the 2005 planning forum. 1] I can't easily put on an AX because of insurance issues 2] Track vs AX. I don't remember anyone breaking their car at Laguna Seca, a much faster track than Streets of Willow. 3] Willow would not be a timed event, just a bit of sporty driving without CHP or oncoming (hopefully) cars. 4] As Slits says, 3 groups of novice/touring, amateur, and racer boys have the track to themselves. 5] Delete word 'Compete'. This is for fun. 6] IMHO you can do far more damage to your car in timed AX than untimed open track driving. 7] In my not so humble opinion, AX is like throwing a temper tantrum in a closet. Open track is like dancing in the moonlight. |
drew365 |
Jul 20 2004, 06:00 PM
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These are the good old days! Group: Members Posts: 2,004 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Sunny So. Cal. Member No.: 37 |
I had to work today so I missed the poll. Apparently Slits deleted it because I don't see it. As much as I don't like going around in circles there's no need to start panicking. We have 10 months so if we kick it around for another week or two there's really no harm. I agree with Toast, we should be able to make our own decisions on what the event will be and only make changes if someone has strong objections to the direction we're taking. I don't think that will happen as I feel this will shape up into a pretty good weekend.
If we try to do an AX we have to do it with PCA and that would make us at their mercy on a lot of things. I think the whole process will move along better if we decide on the track day at Willow. The main stumbling block is the drive between Willow and Oxnard. Since there are no tracks in nice beach areas we're going to have to accept this and do the best we can. Any one that wants to have their day at the track will make the drive and I feel pretty confident there are going to be plenty of cars there. Howard, if there's a liability issue, then several of us may need to have a sit down and discuss it to see what we can work out. The POC has every entrant sign a release and waiver of liability. There's really no reason we couldn't start an LLC to put on the track event. It would cost less than $500 and take care of the issue. |
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