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2005 Venue Part II, shit! |
Howard |
Jul 20 2004, 12:08 PM
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Incontin(g)ent Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,785 Joined: 24-July 03 From: Westlake Village, CA Member No.: 943 Region Association: None |
Ron, love you, and think your poll on the tech forum sucks. Asking "How far would you drive to have exclusive 914 club track use for one day?" would probably get a far different response. I know you and toast want to do an AX and and have it closer to your homes, so find it and we will come.
But it does show where the power comes from in the club. The bay area guys ARE the club, and will dictate what we can or can't do anyway; venue, sponsors, even using the 914world.com name. I was going to post this as a response on the main forum, but will keep it here. None of the Bay area 'leaders' have contributed to the planning, or even visited the forum as far as I know. I will not use my credit card for deposits to secure the track or accomodations and will not proceed until we all agree AND get admin's approval on how, when, and where to hold this event. Even if all this happens, I will not sign the application for track or AX rental. The unlimited liability exposure is too scary. And personally, I would rather not have track or AX at all, just a fun few days. I get in plenty of track time, and after running on the track AX is a lot less satisfying. Here's the unposted post: Where are we going here? Brad and Dave, please visit the 2005 planning forum. 1] I can't easily put on an AX because of insurance issues 2] Track vs AX. I don't remember anyone breaking their car at Laguna Seca, a much faster track than Streets of Willow. 3] Willow would not be a timed event, just a bit of sporty driving without CHP or oncoming (hopefully) cars. 4] As Slits says, 3 groups of novice/touring, amateur, and racer boys have the track to themselves. 5] Delete word 'Compete'. This is for fun. 6] IMHO you can do far more damage to your car in timed AX than untimed open track driving. 7] In my not so humble opinion, AX is like throwing a temper tantrum in a closet. Open track is like dancing in the moonlight. |
McMark |
Jul 20 2004, 07:31 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Seems to me (just another voice in the crowd) there has been too much pandering to the masses. I think it would go much more smoothly for the planners if they just made all the decision and told everyone else what's going to happen. The only constant is that everyone just wants to get together and meet people and look at cars. As long as you have A.) cars and B.) people the event will be a success.
If you're going to make a three day event (or 4 or whatever) you have to think up things for people to do to fill their time. People could probably hang out and talk for three days straight, but it'd be nice if there were things to do. For example: * Autocross. * Fun run. * 914 olympics with events like fastest engine removal. * Peoples Choice awards judging. * Tech sessions. * Timed rally. The point is ALL THESE THIGNS ARE GOOD FUN! Pick which ones are reasonable for you to plan out. If you can't easily work out a autocross/race then pick something else. If you spend more time planning the things that will work easily it'll come off much better than spending time planning the things that won't work easily. It's not supposed to be "same event, different year". Don't get too focused on trying to poll the public and fit everyone's needs. Do what you can do and it will be great! |
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