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2005 Venue Part II, shit! |
Howard |
Jul 20 2004, 12:08 PM
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Incontin(g)ent Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,785 Joined: 24-July 03 From: Westlake Village, CA Member No.: 943 Region Association: None |
Ron, love you, and think your poll on the tech forum sucks. Asking "How far would you drive to have exclusive 914 club track use for one day?" would probably get a far different response. I know you and toast want to do an AX and and have it closer to your homes, so find it and we will come.
But it does show where the power comes from in the club. The bay area guys ARE the club, and will dictate what we can or can't do anyway; venue, sponsors, even using the 914world.com name. I was going to post this as a response on the main forum, but will keep it here. None of the Bay area 'leaders' have contributed to the planning, or even visited the forum as far as I know. I will not use my credit card for deposits to secure the track or accomodations and will not proceed until we all agree AND get admin's approval on how, when, and where to hold this event. Even if all this happens, I will not sign the application for track or AX rental. The unlimited liability exposure is too scary. And personally, I would rather not have track or AX at all, just a fun few days. I get in plenty of track time, and after running on the track AX is a lot less satisfying. Here's the unposted post: Where are we going here? Brad and Dave, please visit the 2005 planning forum. 1] I can't easily put on an AX because of insurance issues 2] Track vs AX. I don't remember anyone breaking their car at Laguna Seca, a much faster track than Streets of Willow. 3] Willow would not be a timed event, just a bit of sporty driving without CHP or oncoming (hopefully) cars. 4] As Slits says, 3 groups of novice/touring, amateur, and racer boys have the track to themselves. 5] Delete word 'Compete'. This is for fun. 6] IMHO you can do far more damage to your car in timed AX than untimed open track driving. 7] In my not so humble opinion, AX is like throwing a temper tantrum in a closet. Open track is like dancing in the moonlight. |
VegasRacer |
Jul 21 2004, 10:38 AM
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ELVIRA Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,524 Joined: 27-March 03 From: Between Scylla and Charybdis Member No.: 481 Region Association: None |
My 2 cents -
I was on the 2004 WCC planning committee. None of the Club administrators (except Jeroen and Seanery) were actively involved. Their role was as helpers not administrators. I assume the others read the planning threads from time to time, but Jeff was the one who really made things happen. I'm sure someone would have stepped in if we had gotten to far off track, but we were left to our own abilites to plan the WCC. As 'bus driver' you (Howard) are now left with the same responsibilites as Jeff. It is your job to make this thing happen. Polls are of limited use. Most people don't vote. We have some great options. A day at the track (Monday) and a party on the beach sound fantastic. Anything else we can add to fill in the rest of the weekend will be a bonus. You are correct. The WCC is more about the people (and the cars) than what we do. Some sort of a framework and fun activities are just a background. Gather the best info. you can. Let everyone speak their opinion. At times last year the discussions became heated, but we were all striving for the same goal in our own way (the best WCC possible). Nobody harbored any resentments. It was team work and solid learership that made it possible. We pulled it off last year in only a few weeks. This year we have many months for it all to come together. We can do it! I say pick a date. Book the track. The details will fall into place. |
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