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| 1972 914 2.0 |
Dec 9 2013, 07:04 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 9-December 13 From: United States Member No.: 16,745 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
I recently bought a 1972 Porsche 914 (with a '74 2.0 motor) and have been having some electrical problems.
Ok here it goes: When I turn the ignition on, as well as start the car, the hazard indictor lights on the dashboard start to flash and the relay clicks. The exterior lights do not flash! The hazard switch is fully disengaged! Before I proceed, its worth mentioning that this is a '72 car. Meaning that the hazard indicating lights are in the FUEL gauge and the turn signal indicators are in the speedometer. When my problem occurs the speedometer lights DO NOT flash, only the hazard indicators in the fuel gauge. All of the turn signals, hazards, and lights worked just fine otherwise. So being a DIY type of guy I decided to order a new turn signal/hazard relay from AA. Having installed this new relay the problem got even worse. Now BOTH the the turn signal and hazard indicators in the gauges just stay (but don't flash) and none of the exterior lights work! And the thing is buzzing at me like crazy! I have also cleaned the ground underneath the dashboard. I am fresh out of ideas, so any comments, criticism, and help is much appreaciated! Thanks 914World! - Chris |
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| dlee6204 |
Dec 9 2013, 07:09 PM
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Howdy ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,162 Joined: 30-April 06 From: Burnsville, NC Member No.: 5,956 |
The big red flashing light in the FUEL gage is actually for brake pressure. It relates to the pressure switch located on the side of the master cylinder. Could you be getting that mixed up?
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| SirAndy |
Dec 9 2013, 07:14 PM
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,469 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
The big red flashing light in the FUEL gage is actually for brake pressure. It relates to the pressure switch located on the side of the master cylinder. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) The big red flashing light in that gauge is triggered by the brake master cylinder when it loses pressure. This is common after bleeding brakes. There is a reset button on the drivers side of the MC that you need to push to reset the light. Turn the wheels full lock to the right and crawl under there to reset. The same light is also used as a parking brake indicator... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) PS: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) |
| 1972 914 2.0 |
Dec 9 2013, 07:20 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 9-December 13 From: United States Member No.: 16,745 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
The big red flashing light in the FUEL gage is actually for brake pressure. It relates to the pressure switch located on the side of the master cylinder. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) The big red flashing light in that gauge is triggered by the brake master cylinder when it loses pressure. This is common after bleeding brakes. There is a reset button on the drivers side of the MC that you need to push to reset the light. Turn the wheels full lock to the right and crawl under there to reset. The same light is also used as a parking brake indicator... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) PS: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) No...this is different. These are Hazard indicator lights. Only available on 70-72 models. I am aware of the brake warning light, that is different. |
| SirAndy |
Dec 9 2013, 07:23 PM
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,469 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
No...this is different. These are Hazard indicator lights. Only available on 70-72 models. I am aware of the brake warning light, that is different. Then post a pic of those "dedicated Hazard indicator lights" on your early car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
| 1972 914 2.0 |
Dec 9 2013, 07:32 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 9-December 13 From: United States Member No.: 16,745 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
No...this is different. These are Hazard indicator lights. Only available on 70-72 models. I am aware of the brake warning light, that is different. Then post a pic of those "dedicated Hazard indicator lights" on your early car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) Glady, Here ya go... |
| SirAndy |
Dec 9 2013, 07:35 PM
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,469 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Glady, Here ya go... Yupp, as i said above, the MC pressure warning uses the same bulbs to indicate a pressure loss. That goes for early cars too ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) |
| SirAndy |
Dec 9 2013, 07:36 PM
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Resident German ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 42,469 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Yupp, as i said above, the MC pressure warning uses the same bulbs to indicate a pressure loss. That goes for early cars too ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) These three go to those lights: 32 Brake warning switch 34 Hand brake contact 47 Direction warning blinker indicator (second page of the diagram, not shown here but indicated by the tiny 13 next to the wire) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.pelicanparts.com-179-1386639411.1.jpg) |
| 1972 914 2.0 |
Dec 10 2013, 02:48 PM
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 74 Joined: 9-December 13 From: United States Member No.: 16,745 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Yupp, as i said above, the MC pressure warning uses the same bulbs to indicate a pressure loss. That goes for early cars too ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif) These three go to those lights: 32 Brake warning switch 34 Hand brake contact 47 Direction warning blinker indicator (second page of the diagram, not shown here but indicated by the tiny 13 next to the wire) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/www.pelicanparts.com-179-1386639411.1.jpg) Do you know where the handbrake contact is located on the car? Thanks |
1972 914 2.0 1972 914 Hazard Lights HELP! Dec 9 2013, 07:04 PM


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Glady, Here ya go...
Yupp, as i said above, the M... Dec 9 2013, 07:49 PM


wndsnd
[quote name='SirAndy' post='1968471' date='Dec 9 ... Dec 9 2013, 08:12 PM


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[quote name='SirAndy' post='1968471' date='Dec 9... Dec 9 2013, 08:54 PM


SirAndy I'm looking at the master cylinder as it sits ... Dec 9 2013, 08:58 PM


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I'm looking at the master cylinder as it sits... Dec 9 2013, 09:14 PM


SirAndy Is in in the middle, between the two fluid lines?
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Is in in the middle, between the two fluid lines?... Dec 9 2013, 09:35 PM


wndsnd
[quote name='SirAndy' post='1968540' date='Dec 9 ... Dec 10 2013, 08:19 AM


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[quote name='SirAndy' post='1968540' date='Dec 9... Dec 10 2013, 08:49 AM


wndsnd
[quote name='wndsnd' post='1968724' date='Dec 10 ... Dec 10 2013, 09:28 AM


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[quote name='wndsnd' post='1968724' date='Dec 10... Dec 10 2013, 11:12 AM

David_S
I looked at the three fuel guages that I have ..... Dec 9 2013, 07:35 PM

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I looked at the three fuel guages that I have .... Dec 9 2013, 08:05 PM

SirAndy How do you reset the Master cylinder?
Post #5 abo... Dec 9 2013, 08:54 PM
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The big red flashing light in the FUEL gage is ac... Dec 9 2013, 07:17 PM
IanJ What happens when you disconnect the hazard light ... Dec 9 2013, 07:11 PM
rmdinmd in my 74 the big red light above the fuel gauge al... Dec 9 2013, 07:12 PM
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in my 74 the big red light above the fuel gauge a... Dec 9 2013, 07:18 PM
Kirmizi I'd suggest reinstalling the original relay, t... Dec 9 2013, 07:42 PM
mikesmith That's the master warning light. It's norm... Dec 9 2013, 08:33 PM
wndsnd The b is on the guage indicating the lights are br... Dec 9 2013, 09:55 PM
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The b is on the guage indicating the lights are b... Dec 9 2013, 10:06 PM
David_S Do a search for "master cylinder reset" ... Dec 9 2013, 11:26 PM
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Do a search for "master cylinder reset... Dec 9 2013, 11:37 PM
rhodyguy if that square object behind the mc is your fuel p... Dec 10 2013, 08:51 AM
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if that square object behind the mc is your fuel ... Dec 10 2013, 11:05 AM
wndsnd After you get things cleaned up and check for leak... Dec 10 2013, 11:11 AM
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After you get things cleaned up and check for lea... Dec 10 2013, 11:14 AM
wndsnd
After you get things cleaned up and check for le... Dec 10 2013, 02:08 PM
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[quote name='1972 914 2.0' post='1968796' date='D... Dec 10 2013, 02:45 PM
SLITS
[quote name='1972 914 2.0' post='1968796' date='... Dec 10 2013, 04:29 PM
Spoke Not sure where you can get the switch.
Why is the... Dec 10 2013, 02:07 PM
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Not sure where you can get the switch.
Why is th... Dec 10 2013, 02:47 PM
toolguy little button just under the front of the handle m... Dec 10 2013, 02:50 PM
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little button just under the front of the handle ... Dec 10 2013, 02:57 PM
sfrenck This pic (bad focus) shows the push button switch.... Dec 10 2013, 03:25 PM
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This pic (bad focus) shows the push button switch... Dec 10 2013, 03:31 PM
Dave_Darling It's just above the floor pan, on the crossmem... Dec 10 2013, 04:01 PM
wndsnd 17 MM are correct from the factory buy you might h... Dec 10 2013, 04:56 PM![]() ![]() |
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